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106. "corporate Trojan horse" - which pretty much describes our gov't at this point. Thanks for this post

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Why Do You Think President Obama Supports The TPP? [View all] polichick Oct 2013 OP

Corporations DURHAM D Oct 2013 #1

Exactly. Cleita Oct 2013 #5

I don't know. I'll need to hear more about it from all sides. eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #2

Fast tracking it might mean we won't hear much until it's a done deal. polichick Oct 2013 #6

the odds are STRONGLY against TPA being passed n/t cali Oct 2013 #83

Good thing! polichick Oct 2013 #108

Why did Bill Clinton support NAFTA ?? After orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #3

He's fallen for the free market claptrap. GeorgeGist Oct 2013 #4

Obama supports the Tea Party Patriots? ashtonelijah Oct 2013 #7

One% party, two faces? polichick Oct 2013 #8

Corporate Liberals . orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #12

The packaging is fascinating... polichick Oct 2013 #14

Blurring the definition of us and them and Friend and foe. orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #18

Yep - what we end up with is a whole nation of... polichick Oct 2013 #21

Exactly. Outrages that would stick in our craws can be pushed out as long as Nay Oct 2013 #90

Huh? The Tea Party opposes trade vocally. Recursion Oct 2013 #43

I have never heard a peep from the Tea Party on trade.........nt Enthusiast Oct 2013 #64

Then you aren't listening, at all. NAFTA (and now TPP) and immigration are their two bete noires Recursion Oct 2013 #65

Again, the Tea Party has not made a peep about free trade or the TPP. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #75

Yes, they really have. It's easy to go read what they say online Recursion Oct 2013 #79

Recursion is correct. cali Oct 2013 #84

I have never heard a peep from the Tea Party about trade agreements. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #92

it's not that hard to find- and seeing as there's very little in the press cali Oct 2013 #94

Let me guess. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #99

sure, I think that's part of it, but I think it goes hand in hand cali Oct 2013 #101

Corporate control is the Black Beast . orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #116

He thinks it will improve our economy Cicada Oct 2013 #9

There's no such thing as free trade, just regulated capitalism KeepItReal Oct 2013 #11

Yep. Even Paul Krugman. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #16

It only undermines the higher worker standard of living and replaces it with less. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #66

It's a good idea on paper, we should try it out sometime. n/t Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #68

Korea had picky safety regulations that kept my employer's electronics out of their market... Kolesar Oct 2013 #10

That is useful information. Thank you. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #51

First: He is the first US president truly oriented toward Pacific/Asia, due to his upbringing Hekate Oct 2013 #13

I also spent part of my childhood in Hawaii as well as my college years. PragmaticLiberal Oct 2013 #15

Right. He's not doing this to spite the American worker. He's trying to make the US engage with... Hekate Oct 2013 #17

Outsourcing, and the 1% moving To & Fro . orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #20

That's all you've got? Hekate Oct 2013 #22

Ok, there is a philosophy we don't really talk about orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #48

We don't talk about it, but the right does. pampango Oct 2013 #50

I think Prescott was the 30's on, and Poppy said 9/11/91 orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #58

How does the TPP impact outsourcing? Recursion Oct 2013 #44

It's the " after the fact " that bothers me, though Your right... orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #49

The problem is that they don't seem to enlightenment Oct 2013 #35

+1 daleanime Oct 2013 #97

We've been "engaged" for a long time zipplewrath Oct 2013 #104

How about a real critique of the TPP? Jasana Oct 2013 #113

No offense, maybe you should start with the TPP. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #59

We won't know about the elements of the proposed TPP until it's too late. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #67

Because he's a neoliberal. nt LWolf Oct 2013 #19

I thought he was doing it to piss off Cali. winter is coming Oct 2013 #23

i think YOU shouldn't call out other DUers. Don't do it to me again. thanks. cali Oct 2013 #85

You've been posting OP after OP about the TPP for weeks now. winter is coming Oct 2013 #109

He doesn't have much choice, we make hardly anything and we need to trade to exist. CK_John Oct 2013 #24

Is the US currently unable to import something in particular? leftstreet Oct 2013 #25

We import almost everything but the treaty is about opening up our exports CK_John Oct 2013 #26

Nonsense. That's not what it's about leftstreet Oct 2013 #27

x2 AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #29

Exactly! Spot on post Populist_Prole Oct 2013 #77

"corporate Trojan horse" - which pretty much describes our gov't at this point. Thanks for this post polichick Oct 2013 #106

Nonsense. The policy of shipping US manufacturing jobs to foreign countries has reduced our ability AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #31

Upthread you said solarhydrocan Oct 2013 #39

Jobs AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #28

Where? enlightenment Oct 2013 #37

The answer "Jobs" was given to the question "Is the US currently unable to import something in AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #38

Ah - enlightenment Oct 2013 #40

We manufacture more now than at any point in US history Recursion Oct 2013 #42

Facts don't matter treestar Oct 2013 #61

Free trade agreements are the cause of wholesale job loss to other countries. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #71

How do you know it was the free trade agreement, and that alone? treestar Oct 2013 #72

"As Recursion cited above" Enthusiast Oct 2013 #78

Well at least that was a fact treestar Oct 2013 #80

I'm not convincing anyone? The millions of us that lost jobs due to NAFTA need no convincing. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #91

I feel bad you lost your job but that does not treestar Oct 2013 #114

You continually defend the indefensible. Now you are defending NAFTA. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #115

As you said, manufacturing jobs have declined since the 1950's - long before NAFTA - while output pampango Oct 2013 #112

I live in Ohio. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #69

OH's manufacturing output has held steady at about $80 billion per year for over a decade Recursion Oct 2013 #70

80 billion a year in 2003 Enthusiast Oct 2013 #76

I googled this subject once and was surprised to learn treestar Oct 2013 #81

Depending on how you count; by some counts China passed us I think last year Recursion Oct 2013 #82

that's true cali Oct 2013 #87

Do we still have a textiles sector? (I ask in ignorance) Recursion Oct 2013 #89

It is gone. Dan River Mills in VA has been gone for many years, as are Nay Oct 2013 #93

yes. a big one. cali Oct 2013 #95

Cool, thanks Recursion Oct 2013 #96

Read the thing please. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #53

Won't guess as to why... 99Forever Oct 2013 #30

Good. 840high Oct 2013 #32

Because he's being lobbied Dyedinthewoolliberal Oct 2013 #33

Corporations. Th1onein Oct 2013 #34

so long america..it`s been good to know ya... madrchsod Oct 2013 #36

Wheat and soybeans; software; cheap shirts Recursion Oct 2013 #41

NAFTA was designed to sell American corn into Mexico Kolesar Oct 2013 #56

Yup. Mexican ag suffered much more than American manufacturing Recursion Oct 2013 #57

Immigration--right out of Sherrod Brown's book, 2006 Kolesar Oct 2013 #62

NAFTA devastated American manufacturing. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #73

Then why does the US manufacture more now than before NAFTA? Recursion Oct 2013 #74

Because the US population has increased from 265 million Enthusiast Oct 2013 #86

Sigh Recursion Oct 2013 #88

It's part of the deal. mattclearing Oct 2013 #45

Lately I'm reminded of 2naSalit Oct 2013 #46

Except the exact same things were said about NAFTA Recursion Oct 2013 #47

Good question. Here's another: Why is No One on MSNBC besides Ed talking about it? whathehell Oct 2013 #52

Ed will stop talking about TPP in a negative way or join Olbermann on ESPN......nt Enthusiast Oct 2013 #98

I certainly hope you're wrong.. whathehell Oct 2013 #100

Because corporations run this country, not whatever figurehead we elect every four years. marmar Oct 2013 #54

I agree - and it'll take a lot of clear-eyed, determined people to change that. polichick Oct 2013 #107

Obama supports the corporations over the people. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #55

He is looking out for Americans of all kinds. treestar Oct 2013 #60

The President is looking out for the interests of the corporations Enthusiast Oct 2013 #63

He's doing the right thing for America, the extremely right-wing thing, that indepat Oct 2013 #102

I would love to see more facts on this treestar Oct 2013 #103

Ugh. The usual suspects Union Scribe Oct 2013 #105

I thought that right away Populist_Prole Oct 2013 #111

The dollar as the world's reserve currency. nt tsuki Oct 2013 #110

Banks, financial institutions, mega corporations. Rex Oct 2013 #117

Pres. Obama is serious on climate change. He is convinced we need action. raouldukelives Oct 2013 #118

Well, that would be wonderful - what are you basing this on? polichick Oct 2013 #119

In my belief that the President is a good & honest person. He feels we have a moral obligation raouldukelives Oct 2013 #121

Sure - "a good and honest person" who's tight with the 1%... polichick Oct 2013 #122

Oh that's why even Congress is left out of the loop, that being the case, orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #120