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12. I don't think it is a stalinist idea. Things have changed. More manufacturing

Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:43 PM

Oct 2013

is going on in the USA than ever before. But so much of it is done by machines. So how do workers, regular people participate in the economy in the 21st century when so many of the jobs are done by computer or machine? We have to talk about it. If we don't wages will keep falling. It will be an employers market. And wages will fall again.

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"Reduce working week to 30 hours, say economists" [View all] applegrove Oct 2013 OP

F'ing wonderful Tien1985 Oct 2013 #1

They'll need to raise the hourly wage before B Calm Oct 2013 #24

Yep. 40 hours pay for 30 hours work is the only way to make this work....... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #28

If they offer that, I'll be Tien1985 Oct 2013 #31

Sure they would. So we've got to demand it because........ socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #35

So no one qualifies for Obamacare!.... pkdu Oct 2013 #2

Well, they're halfway there. DireStrike Oct 2013 #3

Actually... whttevrr Oct 2013 #8

try this sweetapogee Oct 2013 #9

huh? whttevrr Oct 2013 #11

ha ha sweetapogee Oct 2013 #14

LOL, talk about fuzzy math Rstrstx Oct 2013 #13

You have to divide by 30. NutmegYankee Oct 2013 #15

Been saying it for years. What's the point of inventing labor saving technology if Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #4

+10000 woo me with science Oct 2013 #17

Excellent point. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #23

+1000 Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #33

+1 leftstreet Oct 2013 #36

The point is to diversify our outputs. Sirveri Oct 2013 #40

No, it isn't. That may be the point for the parasites that seek to live Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #42

That could have been stated in a less confrontational manner. Sirveri Oct 2013 #43

It could if any of that were valid, but it isn't. I'm not sure, but you seem to believe that Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #44

Americans love to work to death. Rex Oct 2013 #5

Have you ever heard the song "Would You Like to Swing on a Star?". Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #20

It would probably make for a happier life. JEFF9K Oct 2013 #6

heck, I'd be happy with 40 instead of 50 or 60 Skittles Oct 2013 #7

I just had a 60s flashback. Progressive Labor Party slogan. 30 hours work for 40 hours pay. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #10

I don't think it is a stalinist idea. Things have changed. More manufacturing applegrove Oct 2013 #12

The PLP were/are unrepentant stalinists, the slogan was and is just good politics. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #26

They might have been Stalinists, BUT..... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #29

They want a dictatorship. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #30

At least a dictatorship of the proletariat would involve a WHOLE........ socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #37

It would involve far fewer. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #39

Works GREAT for well paid salaried employees, BUT SoCalDem Oct 2013 #16

You are right of course. Maybe there could be another set of rules for low applegrove Oct 2013 #19

Honestly, if there is to be any hope for this civilization then economic productivity has to die. hunter Oct 2013 #18

+1,000,000 dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #21

All great points. I think about overproduction and waste of resources all the time. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #25

Eh, I've only been working 10 hrs a week for the past couple years Flying Squirrel Oct 2013 #22

Good idea, but I want a $22.50 minimum wage to go with it. Laelth Oct 2013 #27

I concur with everyone else. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #32

So the non-exempt people go on SNAP with no health care Ruby the Liberal Oct 2013 #34

See? I told you so. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #38

we need a basic income RainDog Oct 2013 #41

Hell No! I refuse to be anything but a disposable resource for corporate! nt killbotfactory Oct 2013 #45