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dreamnightwind

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Mon Oct 28, 2013, 05:27 AM

Oct 2013

It is a huge factor. I don't know if it's a mistake or if it's just that there is big money behind the RW, always has been, and big money wants to conduct its business without government looking over its shoulder to see if they're serving the public interest.

I still remember how Clear Channel sponsored huge pro-Iraq War rallies in cities all across the country.

Any ideas on how the left could respond to RW radio dominance?

I haven't seen any efforts with deep enough pockets to make a lot of difference.

Another part of the problem is that advertisers generally prefer to support RW ideology, since it serves their corporate interest to do so. There are some left-leaning businesses (Ben and Jerry's, CostCo) but they are hugely outnumbered and outspent.

Anyway I agree it is a huge problem and should receive more attention from the left, not clear to me though what the answer is.

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They really believe this crap [View all] cali Oct 2013 OP

Yeah, pretty much Prophet 451 Oct 2013 #1

hey Prophet, I don't agree with you that they'll impeach President Obama cali Oct 2013 #2

Thank you n/t Prophet 451 Oct 2013 #3

IMHO the current House would impeach the President if he sneezed on a nice day. nt TeamPooka Oct 2013 #45

the measure of the insanity is not that we know that they will try grantcart Oct 2013 #51

I read it. Thanks for providing that link. NBachers Oct 2013 #69

Welcome, thanks for reading it n/t Prophet 451 Oct 2013 #83

Nice. ronnie624 Oct 2013 #70

Thank you n/t Prophet 451 Oct 2013 #84

I'll take Vermont any day over SC steve2470 Oct 2013 #4

Sadly, Vermont winters aren't what they were even 10 years ago cali Oct 2013 #5

wow it was COLD back in the day, had no idea nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #6

Same here. I remember comfort in a t shirt when it hit the teens after a couple of weeks -20 to -30. adirondacker Oct 2013 #68

"Entrepreneurship? Vermont is 2nd. South Carolina? way down there" nxylas Oct 2013 #7

Also, the state government in Vermont cali Oct 2013 #8

0.6% of firms are Hispanic owned, compared to 8.3% for US; percent black owned is too small to list FarCenter Oct 2013 #26

Blacks make up 1%, Hispanics 1.6% of Vermont population. AAO Oct 2013 #29

It's inconvenient, not irrelevant. small D democrat Oct 2013 #50

It's not a melanin issue, it's a racist issue. AAO Oct 2013 #52

No, it isn't. Have you ever been to Vermont? Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #58

Yes AAO Oct 2013 #66

Look, I'm not going to deny there's racism in Vermont cali Oct 2013 #75

VT income median $52,277 and mean $68,644 while US income median $51,371 and mean $71,317 FarCenter Oct 2013 #30

Oregon south, east or west of Portland is pretty damned pale. Shrike47 Oct 2013 #59

...and north is WA and the glare continues. Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #67

That fantasy is itself a fantasy jmowreader Oct 2013 #55

My apologies, I've never actually read one nxylas Oct 2013 #87

Quite interesting. Laelth Oct 2013 #9

I say let the secessionists have that hell hole. KG Oct 2013 #10

No they don't actually believe it. zeemike Oct 2013 #11

Sorry, we disagree on this. I think most of them do believe it. cali Oct 2013 #12

The people who believe have been hoodwinked by those in charge... glowing Oct 2013 #13

Well it is hard to believe that they do. zeemike Oct 2013 #14

And, I would bet nearly all have never been outside of the state or the deep south n2doc Oct 2013 #25

it is common "knowledge" among right-wingers that all Democratic leading states are in desperate Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #15

it comes from the Birchers: their party line was that every church, university, party, politician, MisterP Oct 2013 #24

This ties in to my MS Senate thread. They think you are stealing from them Recursion Oct 2013 #16

At the same time that they believe what you expound on cali Oct 2013 #17

Isn't it? Recursion Oct 2013 #18

Even that is a mistaken belief. spooky3 Oct 2013 #19

That's my point Recursion Oct 2013 #21

Probably a complete waste of effort, better to spend the energy on getting non-voters to participate TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #48

LOL. And Carville cant persuade his own wife nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #65

'stinky, hippie Stalinist hellhole' bwahahahahahaaaa..still upset with 'hippies' spanone Oct 2013 #20

It all about money polynomial Oct 2013 #22

It's all about hero worship.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #34

I can't stop laughing. that's just a fucking riot cali Oct 2013 #36

And, of course . . . hatrack Oct 2013 #47

ItRreally Makes One Wonder colsohlibgal Oct 2013 #23

Actually, HL Mencken said that PDJane Oct 2013 #35

South Carolina seems to still be mired in thinking that prevailed in the mid-19th-century indepat Oct 2013 #27

K&R "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author tconer Oct 2013 #31

Our leaders decided to give them the mass media in total Doctor_J Oct 2013 #32

Part of the hilarity is they never admit they're wrong,...especially to us. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #33

These are the same types that believed that slaves were happy and grateful and the civil war was Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #37

Common ground IS possible.... if you use their own media outlets. ErikJ Oct 2013 #38

Righties use talking points to prove their talking points. livingonearth Oct 2013 #39

"Stalinist"????????? Do these people even have a clue how to use their Google finger or Wikipedia?? kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #40

well known Communist fronts grantcart Oct 2013 #49

Letters to the Editor for the Dallas Morning News dem in texas Oct 2013 #41

A huge percent are Caretha Oct 2013 #43

We're in America's Dark Ages - and Vermont shines on in spite of it all... polichick Oct 2013 #42

In summary, rednecks and fundies "believe" instead of perceive. Coyotl Oct 2013 #44

+1 dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #73

Kick And Recommend cantbeserious Oct 2013 #46

Is that as bad as "Cesspool of Sin"? G_j Oct 2013 #53

FWIW, not everyone in SC thinks this way RT Atlanta Oct 2013 #54

Of course not. I would never assume such a simple minded thing. cali Oct 2013 #76

Someone needs to do a South Park style "THIS IS WHAT TEABAGGERS ACTUALLY BELIEVE" segment. Initech Oct 2013 #56

Diversity? oberliner Oct 2013 #57

and? Look, the lack of diversity in most of Vermont cali Oct 2013 #77

Burlington is not a pretty diverse city oberliner Oct 2013 #78

I actually know quite a few African Americans who live cali Oct 2013 #79

Your OP painted South Carolina in an unflattering light oberliner Oct 2013 #81

My wife and I 25 years ago quit talking to her side of the family gopiscrap Oct 2013 #60

They call it "faith." You don't have "faith" unless you believe the utterly impossible. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #61

Was it Mark Twain that said? Populist_Prole Oct 2013 #62

In some ways its good that states can have very different values IronLionZion Oct 2013 #63

it's the radio. the 'left' ignores 1200 corporate coordinated megaphones as if they need to be certainot Oct 2013 #64

True dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #74

i do happen to have a few ideas to challenge RW radio certainot Oct 2013 #82

Excellent post dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #86

thanks for the feedback and ideas. i was pleased to hear obama reference 'talking heads on the radio certainot Oct 2013 #88

Let me know dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #89

i'v been thinking there's an opportunity for a software package that a certainot Oct 2013 #90

For the Tea Party, reality is wrong. sakabatou Oct 2013 #71

They mistake the flames of hell for the light of day. gtar100 Oct 2013 #72

If the words "Stalinist" and "statist" are used, that's an instant "don't take seriously". HughBeaumont Oct 2013 #80

Most of these idiots still think California is bankrupt Downtown Hound Oct 2013 #85

Well, there ya go. (no text) Quantess Oct 2013 #91