Didn't mean to leave out up-and-comers like Wendy Davis either (Reply #92)

In the discussion thread: Any Thoughts on "Plan B" if Hillary Doesn't Run..Or, Declares and has Health Problem and Withdraws? [View all]

Response to emsimon33 (Reply #87)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 10:53 AM

IrishAyes (6,151 posts)

92. Didn't mean to leave out up-and-comers like Wendy Davis either

But you won't win with a female-only ticket, and she's still young enough to have more time left than Hillary, as the Castros do. I don't mean be silly and take turns, but rather play our hand well. Politics is a whole lot like poker.

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135 replies	Author	Time	Post
Any Thoughts on "Plan B" if Hillary Doesn't Run..Or, Declares and has Health Problem and Withdraws? [View all]	KoKo	Oct 2013	OP
What makes her everyone's Plan A?	NoOneMan	Oct 2013	#1
She's not even my Plan Z	bigwillq	Oct 2013	#3
+1	ScreamingMeemie	Oct 2013	#17
That's because we are so cool!	bigwillq	Oct 2013	#21
That game was craaaaazy!	ScreamingMeemie	Oct 2013	#25
So happy the Lions won.	bigwillq	Oct 2013	#38
30-31 good news for #NYG, yup.	FogerRox	Oct 2013	#42
She's my plan 9 from outer space.	winter is coming	Oct 2013	#62
Who do you think would run in the primaries?	KoKo	Oct 2013	#4
I don't have a clue	NoOneMan	Oct 2013	#5
+1	davidpdx	Oct 2013	#47
The Clinton disinformation machine are the Planners of Plan A.	Whisp	Oct 2013	#98
How you extrapolated that bogus posit is awe inspiring.	cliffordu	Oct 2013	#100
Always glad to awe. n/t	Whisp	Oct 2013	#103
17 million votes in the 2008 Primary	brooklynite	Oct 2013	#104
No, it doesn't count.	NoOneMan	Oct 2013	#110
...except that Hillary's 17 million represented virtually the same vote total that Obama got...	brooklynite	Oct 2013	#116
You don't get it. That was the 2008 primary. There is supposed to be a 2016 primary	NoOneMan	Oct 2013	#118
You're waiting for candidates to present themselves...	brooklynite	Oct 2013	#119
Its 2013! Yes, I am waiting	NoOneMan	Oct 2013	#122
Hey Gang! Let's put on a show!	brooklynite	Oct 2013	#123
No one has her brand recognition	leftstreet	Oct 2013	#2
That's why we should find someone else.	RC	Oct 2013	#37
Sadly, we don't have a bench.	DURHAM D	Oct 2013	#6
I wonder why we don't have a Bench. And back ups.	KoKo	Oct 2013	#13
Warren would handle the criticism the same way Obama did..	JimDandy	Oct 2013	#56
Sez who?	tabasco	Oct 2013	#7
Says...Asking...Who do You think is a Back Bencher for Dems....	KoKo	Oct 2013	#16
Personally...	CherokeeDem	Oct 2013	#8
My post is about ...What if Hillary doesn't decide to run..Health Problem or whatever..	KoKo	Oct 2013	#18
+1 to Gov. Martin O'Malley of MD!	Agschmid	Oct 2013	#80
I second the O'Malley nomination. n/t	FSogol	Oct 2013	#114
What about Joe Biden?	meadowlark5	Oct 2013	#9
As much as I love Biden	davidpdx	Oct 2013	#48
Actually, I think if Hillary didn't run	Le Taz Hot	Oct 2013	#134
I'm not sure about that so I'll respectively disagree	davidpdx	Oct 2013	#135
Joe is currently 70. He will be 73 in 2016. That makes me a little hesitant.	kestrel91316	Oct 2013	#57
Great OP subject, Koko. Thanks!	Zorra	Oct 2013	#10
I..know...I kept thinking who could be alternatives.	KoKo	Oct 2013	#14
I think that's the whole point.	pangaia	Oct 2013	#29
Like it's going to make a difference?	TorchTheWitch	Oct 2013	#11
Well, if not Hillary, then I'd like to see	clydefrand	Oct 2013	#12
Elizabeth Warren. Al Gore. I suppose Biden's always a possibility.	Warren DeMontague	Oct 2013	#15
Who is Gavin Newsome and why do you like him?	KoKo	Oct 2013	#19
Gavin Newsom is the current Lt. Governor of California.	Warren DeMontague	Oct 2013	#44
He looks young...and has good Issue...what else do you know about him	KoKo	Oct 2013	#45
I admit that when he first ran for SF Mayor I thought he was a blow-dried Marina yuppie.	Warren DeMontague	Oct 2013	#49
than whoever wants to run will run like they always do ?	JI7	Oct 2013	#20
As Dem...who would you like to see run? That's what this post is about...	KoKo	Oct 2013	#23
Three years until 2014?	randome	Oct 2013	#22
+1	treestar	Oct 2013	#26
The Democrats can't get organized. OWS can't get organized. Even DU CAN'T GET ORGANIZED!	randome	Oct 2013	#28
Agreed.	Vashta Nerada	Oct 2013	#35
We can't wait until after 2014 to start on 2016.	Chan790	Oct 2013	#77
That work was not done by us.	jeff47	Oct 2013	#113
Any one who runs without opposition gets no media attention and lets the GOP put on a circus.	CK_John	Oct 2013	#24
If it's Hillary...should Candidate run to the LEFT or the RIGHT of HER..for	KoKo	Oct 2013	#30
Martin O'Malley	treestar	Oct 2013	#27
O'Malley I'd consider after getting to know more about him	davidpdx	Oct 2013	#50
there are certainly many possible scenarios	reddread	Oct 2013	#31
I'd like to see Karen Gillibrand run if Hillary doesn't n/t	SamYeager	Oct 2013	#32
I think you mean Kirsten Gillibrand?	RFKHumphreyObama	Oct 2013	#63
D'oh	SamYeager	Oct 2013	#65
who knows?	arely staircase	Oct 2013	#33
She's not my Plan A.	Vashta Nerada	Oct 2013	#34
mine neither	AtomicKitten	Oct 2013	#85
And who is that going to be?	JoePhilly	Oct 2013	#96
Then it becomes a lot more challenging to beat Chris Christie	OmahaBlueDog	Oct 2013	#36
Thank you for at least providing a List of Dems we could "check out"	KoKo	Oct 2013	#40
People seem to think Christie will run	davidpdx	Oct 2013	#52
Christie will run. Tht became clear when he announced the weight loss surgery.	OmahaBlueDog	Oct 2013	#74
My #1 would be Brian Schweitzer, but he's said any, many, times	napi21	Oct 2013	#126
imo Plan A better involve a populist Dem, not another corporate Dem...	polichick	Oct 2013	#39
It's 2013, for crissakes. 9 months into PBO's second term.	X_Digger	Oct 2013	#41
Warren	FreeJoe	Oct 2013	#43
O'Malley sounds like a new name. Why would you support him...where does	KoKo	Oct 2013	#46
He's a fine governor (MD,)	elleng	Oct 2013	#55
okay..will do some research on him on my own. Thanks! n/t	KoKo	Oct 2013	#60
Ugh Klobuchar and Cuomo -nt-	DireStrike	Oct 2013	#59
Julian Castro - San Antonio's popular mayor	TBF	Oct 2013	#51
Hey the Irish & Latino ticket.....	Historic NY	Oct 2013	#54
As VP maybe	Rstrstx	Oct 2013	#71
Very successful mayor of top 10 city -	TBF	Oct 2013	#90
Joe Biden, Eliz Warren,	elleng	Oct 2013	#53
Sherrod Brown	protect our future	Oct 2013	#58
I like him..!	KoKo	Oct 2013	#61
Mark Warner -Elizabeth Warren	RFKHumphreyObama	Oct 2013	#64
I can't see those two running together.	Chan790	Oct 2013	#79
Agreed. Warner serves the 2%	emsimon33	Oct 2013	#86
Mark Warner (corporate puppet) is really more of a Republican than a Democrat	emsimon33	Oct 2013	#84
Warner's a conservative - that's all we need. nt	TBF	Oct 2013	#91
Howard Dean still has my heart	mainer	Oct 2013	#66
Right now my favorite VP candidate with Hillary would be one of the Castro fellows.	IrishAyes	Oct 2013	#67
The question is who can raise a billion dollars? Can we have Twin VPs? One of them, definitely.	libdem4life	Oct 2013	#68
I meant one of the Castros, not both at the same time.	IrishAyes	Oct 2013	#70
Sorry...tongue in cheek a bit...who could choose one of them for VP?	libdem4life	Oct 2013	#72
One twin for governor, the other for VP. I like 'em both. And when a person gets the nod	IrishAyes	Oct 2013	#73
One of the Castros for VP is a great idea	emsimon33	Oct 2013	#87
Didn't mean to leave out up-and-comers like Wendy Davis either	IrishAyes	Oct 2013	#92
Two words:	Cali_Democrat	Oct 2013	#69
Good question, Koko!	DevonRex	Oct 2013	#75
Brian Schweitzer	LTR	Oct 2013	#76
How about a Gillibrand/Schweitzer ticket?	CTyankee	Oct 2013	#106
HOWARD DEAN	Th1onein	Oct 2013	#78
Great idea. I posted Elizabeth Warren before I saw your post!	emsimon33	Oct 2013	#82
I think Dean/Warren would be a great team.	Th1onein	Oct 2013	#88
Elizabeth Warren as Plan A	emsimon33	Oct 2013	#81
Corey Booker	Pretzel_Warrior	Oct 2013	#83
He's a treasure. Literally. His entire campaign was funded by the dreaded, evil corporations.	libdem4life	Oct 2013	#97
so he'd be perfect for president according to some here.	Pretzel_Warrior	Oct 2013	#99
He'd get my vote, absolutely. Pragmatism is another word for Winning.	libdem4life	Oct 2013	#105
She was the frontrunner in 2006. She was inevitable. It was going to be a coronation.	Spider Jerusalem	Oct 2013	#89
Jeb Bush and his Hispanic wife. Governors can get away with being oveweight, but can't	libdem4life	Oct 2013	#93
Good points you make there. The money is key.	KoKo	Oct 2013	#94
Pragmatism. I tend to believe that since Democrats seem to be able to think outside a box, as you	libdem4life	Oct 2013	#95
What waning?	jeff47	Oct 2013	#108
Not Fox, Limbaugh and Beck ... Wall Street Funding, Chamber of Commerce, and yes, Moderate	libdem4life	Oct 2013	#128
Even Fox News is "waning" a bit.	libdem4life	Oct 2013	#131
You think there would be a long list of candidates, given how much some	JoePhilly	Oct 2013	#101
I'm not sure she's plan "A"	lumberjack_jeff	Oct 2013	#102
you and at least 20% of Dems	Pretzel_Warrior	Oct 2013	#107
Just like in 2008.	jeff47	Oct 2013	#111
I'll support Hillary if she's the nominee.	lumberjack_jeff	Oct 2013	#112
Same as Plan A.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Oct 2013	#109
Why are you repeating our mistake from 2010?	jeff47	Oct 2013	#115
But you misunderstand...	brooklynite	Oct 2013	#117
No, I completely understand	jeff47	Oct 2013	#125
I've seen Kirsten Gillibrand's name discussed.	HuckleB	Oct 2013	#120
The sitting VP is one serious option	Motown_Johnny	Oct 2013	#121
But..Biden would get the vote of the young....? And, believe me	KoKo	Oct 2013	#124
Younger voters overwhelmingly support more progressive policies.	Motown_Johnny	Oct 2013	#127
I never have a problem: A Democrat. Whoever, from whatever wing. n/t	UTUSN	Oct 2013	#129
If Hillary doesn't run I might actually get to vote for a democrat, as long as that democrat is	liberal_at_heart	Oct 2013	#130
Who could emerge to the Left of Hillary?	KoKo	Oct 2013	#132
No one ever mentions Chris Van Hollen.	bunnies	Oct 2013	#133

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