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muriel_volestrangler

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32. Gellman was only involved around the beginning of May
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 08:29 PM
Oct 2013
Poitras was not Snowden’s first choice as the person to whom he wanted to leak thousands of N.S.A. documents. In fact, a month before contacting her, he reached out to Greenwald, who had written extensively and critically about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the erosion of civil liberties in the wake of 9/11. Snowden anonymously sent him an e-mail saying he had documents he wanted to share, and followed that up with a step-by-step guide on how to encrypt communications, which Greenwald ignored. Snowden then sent a link to an encryption video, also to no avail.

“It’s really annoying and complicated, the encryption software,” Greenwald said as we sat on his porch during a tropical drizzle. “He kept harassing me, but at some point he just got frustrated, so he went to Laura.”

Snowden had read Greenwald’s article about Poitras’s troubles at U.S. airports and knew she was making a film about the government’s surveillance programs; he had also seen a short documentary about the N.S.A. that she made for The New York Times Op-Docs. He figured that she would understand the programs he wanted to leak about and would know how to communicate in a secure way.

By late winter, Poitras decided that the stranger with whom she was communicating was credible. There were none of the provocations that she would expect from a government agent — no requests for information about the people she was in touch with, no questions about what she was working on. Snowden told her early on that she would need to work with someone else, and that she should reach out to Greenwald. She was unaware that Snowden had already tried to contact Greenwald, and Greenwald would not realize until he met Snowden in Hong Kong that this was the person who had contacted him more than six months earlier.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/magazine/laura-poitras-snowden.html?pagewanted=5&_r=0


December 2012: According to Glenn Greenwald, Edward Snowden first emailed him, anonymously. In an interview with Harpers, Greenwald says he initially ignored the emails.

January, 2013: Edward Snowden contacted documentary filmmaker Laura Poitras, according to an interview in Salon. Poitras notes her familiarity with encryption methods thanks to her close contact with Wikileaks for a previous film, and her involvement with TOR developer and hacker Jacob Appelbaum (who was investigated for his ties to Wikileaks in 2011).

February-May 2013: Snowden exchanges emails with Greenwald and Poitras, according to the Washington Post, but does not reveal his identity.
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Early May, 2013: Snowden “indirectly” contacts Barton Gellman (the meaning of “indirectly” is unclear), who begins working on the PRISM story at the Washington Post.

http://joshuafoust.com/a-timeline-of-edward-snowden-associates/
Let's hope not. madamesilverspurs Oct 2013 #1
I Hear Ya... Yet Here's The Problem... WillyT Oct 2013 #5
I know what you are saying but where can I get real news? You are concerned that GG will slant rhett o rick Oct 2013 #13
So true. If he is going to rely on donations for his 'journalism' Whisp Oct 2013 #41
LOL Egnever Oct 2013 #2
I predict there will be a lot of crow eating by certain critics. I wonder how many will own adirondacker Oct 2013 #3
Amy Goodman has about the most Cleita Oct 2013 #8
I hope they both become the new "mainstream". :) adirondacker Oct 2013 #10
Amy is really good LittleBlue Oct 2013 #45
I was encouraged to hear that Jeremy Scahill is in on this venture n/t deutsey Oct 2013 #50
um...My criticisms of Greenwald still stand Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #19
Very excited to see the new media venture funded by the ebay mega money dude quinnox Oct 2013 #4
It's a good exchange. I hope people take the time to read it Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #6
K&R for G.G.! MNBrewer Oct 2013 #7
... BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #9
Can't be any worse than what we already have 1000words Oct 2013 #11
You'd be surprised at how much worse it could potentially get Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #17
K&R The new venture is EXCELLENT news for America. woo me with science Oct 2013 #12
A surprisingly good read... Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #14
He advocates a more "activist, more partisan journalsim". I think that's the biggest okaawhatever Oct 2013 #15
Snowden went to Greenwald first with the story because he liked Greenwald's work muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Oct 2013 #22
That is not the information I have. Gellman was working with Poitras very early on. She asked for okaawhatever Oct 2013 #27
Gellman was only involved around the beginning of May muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #32
He may not be the future of "news", bvar22 Oct 2013 #16
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #20
Exactly. It isn't ideal. But neither is fascism. BlueStreak Oct 2013 #55
the future of news? madrchsod Oct 2013 #21
Well... Locally... The Sacramento Bee Looks Like A Pamphlet These Days... WillyT Oct 2013 #24
It won't ever happen, but if you wanted ONE magic bullet Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #30
Definitely the line between news, opinion, and entertainment have blurred. goldent Oct 2013 #23
A most excellent exchange of letters expressing their points of view, having said that Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #25
Love Ya Uncle Joe !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #26
Likewise, WillyT. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #28
Hypothetically speaking, would you still agree with the position Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Oct 2013 #33
Who do you believe damaged ACORN the worst, Brietbart or the "non-subjective" corporate media; Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #38
nyt lied even after they knew okeefe was not dressed as a pimp questionseverything Oct 2013 #43
Good...So when or where did Greenwald ever "disclose" Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #59
If you really wanted to know all it takes is Google and you could find it. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #61
Uncle Joe... I'd Just Like To Say... You're The Best !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #62
That is an excellent post. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #63
The future is unknown... Rex Oct 2013 #29
rock n roll is straight from hell! KG Oct 2013 #49
Ok, this is fully. nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #34
If he is, we're fucked...nt SidDithers Oct 2013 #35
Greenwald will destroy the world! Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #47
I don't think Bozo was one of the Four Horsemen...nt SidDithers Oct 2013 #48
You always have so little to say Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #51
Two weeks in and you've got me all figured out... SidDithers Oct 2013 #54
Two weeks typing one-liners is way too much Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #58
repeat customer? vaht? dionysus Oct 2013 #60
from the article questionseverything Oct 2013 #36
THANK YOU !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #37
No: DRUDGE covered that niche. n/t UTUSN Oct 2013 #39
Hope not. randome Oct 2013 #40
Buried on page 6. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #42
good exchange RainDog Oct 2013 #44
No. Chan790 Oct 2013 #46
The future of RW Libertarian "news", at best. tridim Oct 2013 #52
They need a solid gate-keeper Hutzpa Oct 2013 #53
I certainly hope not. MineralMan Oct 2013 #56
$200 million seems like a lot lordsummerisle Oct 2013 #57
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