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Cerridwen

(13,262 posts) Mon Oct 28, 2013, 08:59 PM Oct 2013

When the "young and healthy" become the "old and infirm." [View all]

Don't want to pay into a system because you don't need it?

Fine. There goes the fire department since your house isn't on fire...right now.

There goes the emergency room since you aren't currently having a heart attack or a sucking chest wound.

Here's the point: you want it there when YOU need it, you get to pay for it when OTHERS need it so it's there for YOU when YOU need it.

We all pay into that which benefits us all; whether now or later.

In spite of what you think, none of us is (yet) immortal or safe from this thing called Life.

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When the "young and healthy" become the "old and infirm." [View all] Cerridwen Oct 2013 OP

At least the 'old and infirm' get Medicare. For now n/t leftstreet Oct 2013 #1

I wonder how many of them would give up Medicare Cerridwen Oct 2013 #6

?? leftstreet Oct 2013 #11

That's why I asked. I wasn't sure. Cerridwen Oct 2013 #16

What Medicare and the ACA both need is Rozlee Oct 2013 #54

and who wants to pay taxes for schools, elleng Oct 2013 #2

Thank you. I have no children. Cerridwen Oct 2013 #3

Yup, and I want a fire department!!! elleng Oct 2013 #5

You "socialist" you! LOL Cerridwen Oct 2013 #8

Yes, I'll admit it!!! elleng Oct 2013 #12

Well not me, dammit. And take down that stop light! I'm not using it right now! Squinch Oct 2013 #15

Agreed 100%...there are things that the profit motive cannot help. Moostache Oct 2013 #55

Guhhhh, that's probably my biggest political pet peeve Posteritatis Oct 2013 #13

Very hard for me to understand such self-centeredness, elleng Oct 2013 #14

Why, that's the backbone of Phentex Oct 2013 #18

Good point . . . aggiesal Oct 2013 #51

Not to mention us young-and-healthies can still wind up young-and-maimed or something. Posteritatis Oct 2013 #4

Good point. Thank you for adding it. Cerridwen Oct 2013 #7

It's been on my mind since discovering a chair in the dark with considerable force last week Posteritatis Oct 2013 #9

Owowowowowowowowow!!!!! Squinch Oct 2013 #17

First, I must ask your forgiveness. Cerridwen Oct 2013 #19

I laughed after I finished stripping the kitchen walls' paint with words alone Posteritatis Oct 2013 #21

Really? That was all I needed to get that Cerridwen Oct 2013 #24

Nah, the pointy-object variety Posteritatis Oct 2013 #31

I am beginning to think there are a lot ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #10

Yeah. It's like people supporting ACA Cerridwen Oct 2013 #20

I cannot believe it sometimes here. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #39

I can believe it. Cerridwen Oct 2013 #44

What are the deductibles and copays when the fire department responds to your call? n/t Fumesucker Oct 2013 #22

Remember, in some places if you have not paid your fee... Phentex Oct 2013 #23

If you had a $5K deductible on top of your fire department premium? Fumesucker Oct 2013 #26

I have a spare 5K. Doesn't everyone? Phentex Oct 2013 #28

Well, everyone except *those* people Fumesucker Oct 2013 #30

I would gladly pay more to put out their fires, too... Phentex Oct 2013 #32

It depends where you live. Cerridwen Oct 2013 #25

You pay a premium and then pay a portion of the bill before the FD will actually start the pumps? Fumesucker Oct 2013 #27

A link to a story that Cerridwen Oct 2013 #29

The early history of the US is not exactly a prime example of modern considerations. Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #33

It is when the current political luddites Cerridwen Oct 2013 #35

Yes, but your contention that such antiquated practices are common is false. Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #36

Good for you. Cerridwen Oct 2013 #37

I was involved in some of those DU threads Fumesucker Oct 2013 #34

So you propose mandating the young and poor support the expenses of the old and wealthy? Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #38

I said "old and infirm." Not sure where you got Cerridwen Oct 2013 #40

I'm not exactly young myself, it's my daughter who's money you want... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #57

Pretty much the whole concept of the mandate TDale313 Oct 2013 #53

Yes. It is designed to siphon the last few bucks from the young and poor... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #59

we need single payer. It's that simple. TDale313 Oct 2013 #60

I support single payer. Obamacare has some fantastic provisions... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #62

Several generations ago, it was understood that the young took care of the old Blaukraut Oct 2013 #41

In response to your last question: Cerridwen Oct 2013 #42

You're so welcome! Blaukraut Oct 2013 #43

You and I don't. Cerridwen Oct 2013 #45

I know at least hubby and I are, and will be, ok. Not sure about our girls down the road. Blaukraut Oct 2013 #48

Lol. Heh. I have a Tribble(tm). Cerridwen Oct 2013 #50

You never know when you may need it JAbuchan08 Oct 2013 #46

I hope you are okay. Cerridwen Oct 2013 #47

I don't mind talking about it JAbuchan08 Oct 2013 #49

I'm happy to read that Cerridwen Oct 2013 #52

I know a right winger who died not too long ago and never made out a will.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #56

When they privatize the fire department, your analogy will be appropriate. 1000words Oct 2013 #58

I have no kids but I like being around healthy, educated people Skittles Oct 2013 #61