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37. The electricity comes partly from non-fossil fuel sources

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 11:23 AM

Oct 2013

The electricity comes from a mix of coal, gas, nuclear, hydro and alternative sources, so fossil fuel is less than 100%. Total efficiency of generation and distribution to my light bulb is probably around 35%.

I heat with oil, so it is a relatively high cost source of heat with a relatively high carbon output. Oil burner efficiency is about 85%.

So for 100 watts of output, the carbon emissions are roughly the same. And with the bulb, I get light as a byproduct.

The bulb is in a floor lamp, so the heat goes directly into the room. I have no recessed fixtures.

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Light bulbs. Incandescent light bulbs. [View all] no_hypocrisy Oct 2013 OP

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In the winter, the heat from the bulb is useful FarCenter Oct 2013 #9

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As noted above, in summer I use CFLs FarCenter Oct 2013 #57

I see that, up there on you original reply krispos42 Oct 2013 #61

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