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sabrina 1

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74. No, he didn't!

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 02:49 PM

Oct 2013

His plane stopped over in Hong Kong where the US Govt asked them to detain him. Hong Kong refused to detain him and he went on to next stop over, which was Moscow. The US Govt then rescinded his passport making it impossible to CONTINUE on his way! He remained in the airport until granted temporary asylum for one year.

He was not headed for either China or Russia.

It's fine to disagree with him, it's not fine to distort facts, any facts.

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Obama, Congress Owe Snowden Thanks, and a Pardon [View all] xchrom Oct 2013 OP

Snowden should be on the commission that investigates the NSA BlueStreak Oct 2013 #1

I like your idea newfie11 Oct 2013 #2

And the next unattainable Obamapony is born! tridim Oct 2013 #3

yet another fine example of real Obama Derangement Syndrome. nt xchrom Oct 2013 #4

I don't suffer from ODS. I look at the reality of what Obama has accomplished... tridim Oct 2013 #7

No combustion worries at all for people with Ed Suspicious Oct 2013 #54

Ouch.. Fumesucker Oct 2013 #72

Ha! NuclearDem Oct 2013 #80

k/r marmar Oct 2013 #5

Outstanding article! Big K&R. nt riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #6

"Bild" is the cheapest crap of a newspaper there is in Germany. DetlefK Oct 2013 #8

So, the bugging, if it really was going on, started under the bush administration..... George II Oct 2013 #9

If my dog is crapping on my christx30 Oct 2013 #11

Good Analogy!! raindaddy Oct 2013 #17

Not the kid down the street, the not-so-bright, RW Libertarian kid who now lives in Moscow. nt tridim Oct 2013 #23

Well to continue with the dog shit analogy. zeemike Oct 2013 #40

Nobody threatened Snowjob before he headed off to China and then Russia. tridim Oct 2013 #53

Well that is why they make examples out of whistle blowers zeemike Oct 2013 #73

If there was any doubt before this legitimizes Snowden as a whistle blower. raindaddy Oct 2013 #51

It is if you allow you dog to run free and crap whereever he feels like. AAO Oct 2013 #27

I'm willing to give the dog christx30 Oct 2013 #31

He didn't know that he let his dog run free when he lets him outside? AAO Oct 2013 #43

Good point. He gave his dog too much freedom christx30 Oct 2013 #63

And he should kick the dog while he's at it... come boy, come boner.... AAO Oct 2013 #70

Did you read the article? Obama, Congress members etc owe Snowden riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #25

Generally, yes it is. RC Oct 2013 #76

opinions rtracey Oct 2013 #10

People HAVE died because of bad policies, lies, deceptions from the top of sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #12

I'm sure we'll prosecute the war criminals as soon as the never-ending GWOT ends. AAO Oct 2013 #29

Exactly! freebrew Oct 2013 #35

The anti-Snowden propagandists must feel awful LittleBlue Oct 2013 #13

He's been out of the country for almost a year.... George II Oct 2013 #15

Without him, no one would know anything. LittleBlue Oct 2013 #16

Without him the President wouldn't know what the NSA was doing riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #21

Didn't answer the question...why is he releasing this now? Not getting enough attention lately? George II Oct 2013 #41

Doesn't really matter LittleBlue Oct 2013 #47

"Attempting to change the focus of this debate to Snowden is useless".... George II Oct 2013 #55

But why he releases something when he does LittleBlue Oct 2013 #79

Maybe this one finally came to the top of the stack, that's why. RC Oct 2013 #78

Dearest George Oilwellian Oct 2013 #89

Snowden gave the info to journalists. They are the ones doling out the info now nt riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #22

July through October is almost a year? n/t hootinholler Oct 2013 #32

Okay, 5 months - he left the country in May (not July), but he started leaking in late 2012. George II Oct 2013 #45

did you have a point or something? frylock Oct 2013 #56

Yes, did you read my post? George II Oct 2013 #58

yeah, i did. blah blah blah attention blah blah something. frylock Oct 2013 #62

Obviously you weren't interested in my point, so why did you ask? George II Oct 2013 #67

i'll refer you to this: frylock Oct 2013 #68

And..........around and around we go! George II Oct 2013 #69

Snowden may indeed have saved the world from America, which has boomersense Oct 2013 #14

Potentially. sibelian Oct 2013 #57

Thanks.... They will... But it will take a few more patriots disguised as mere cogs. And they boomersense Oct 2013 #61

Would someone... DirtyDawg Oct 2013 #18

You're correct. There isn't any information that disputes what you've said. Clearly leaders of okaawhatever Oct 2013 #87

Snowden is Paul Revere with a thumb drive full of the news that Tyranny is coming!... SidDithers Oct 2013 #19

Naturally he ran to that bastion of freedom: Russia! Adrahil Oct 2013 #20

Only after running to that bastion of free speech, CHINA!!! SamYeager Oct 2013 #33

Except he didn't. But don't ever, ever allow facts to interfere with a good sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #36

Only he did. SamYeager Oct 2013 #39

You're right, re-writing historical facts doesn't change the sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #65

Thank you for admitting that he first went to China. n/t SamYeager Oct 2013 #66

He didn't run off to China, then Russia? George II Oct 2013 #46

No, he didn't! sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #74

I think you need to check YOUR "facts". George II Oct 2013 #75

No, Sabrina's right LittleBlue Oct 2013 #82

That's curious. Maybe someone can answer this? George II Oct 2013 #84

Ummmm..... why did he go to Russia in the first place? Adrahil Oct 2013 #86

He was allowed to leave Hong Kong, after the US asked them to detain him. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #88

If he'd mailed his thumb drives to the President instead, saying muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #28

He would not have been arrested. former9thward Oct 2013 #83

Republicons are going nuts over this - Obama Gotcha! AAO Oct 2013 #24

Why does he need a "pardon"? ProSense Oct 2013 #26

2013 is not 'early in the Obama presidency' muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #30

Sure it is hootinholler Oct 2013 #34

You know, ProSense Oct 2013 #38

Since you asked, no, he had no intention of going to Russia. The US Government sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #42

LOL! ProSense Oct 2013 #49

Sounds like "Fast and Furious" - started during the bush administration... George II Oct 2013 #52

I hate Libertarians more than Republicans. stonecutter357 Oct 2013 #37

Manning deserves the pardon and debt of gratitude Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #44

Actually he is not. He is trapped in Russia. RC Oct 2013 #81

No - he's not trapped in Russia... George II Oct 2013 #90

And spend the rest of his life in prison? RC Oct 2013 #92

Then he's not the martyr that he wants everyone to think he is.... George II Oct 2013 #94

Maybe Snowden doesn't want to be, nor needs to be a martyr. RC Oct 2013 #96

A surge in "plausible deniability" and "I didn't know" claims are occurring. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #48

Snowden types - Next time just email Obama with all your insider revelations of wrong doings. L0oniX Oct 2013 #50

Still a traitor PatrynXX Oct 2013 #59

+ to infinity... Tikki Oct 2013 #64

LOL Egnever Oct 2013 #60

but he made them look bad!! Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #71

K/R Autumn Oct 2013 #77

K&R woo me with science Oct 2013 #85

I believe admission of and remorse for a crime AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #91

No, "a pardon is the forgiveness of a crime and cancellation of the relevant penalty." bobduca Oct 2013 #93

doesn't there have to be admission of a crime AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #95

Probably still premature for a pardon bobduca Oct 2013 #97