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lumberjack_jeff

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137. How much of a hike are we talking about? 5%? 10%?

Reply to CreekDog (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:05 PM

Oct 2013

How about 56%?

http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/14/news/economy/obamacare-premiums/index.html

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Young Men, are you upset that you'll no longer be able to get health insurance cheaper than women? [View all] CreekDog Oct 2013 OP

my boys will not even know they are being deprived. they will think it is a norm. and they will be seabeyond Oct 2013 #1

I think it's inherently unfair to charge more based on gender CreekDog Oct 2013 #2

you and i see eye to eye. yes we do. nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #3

Yeah but now it's pushed more unequal in another way davidn3600 Oct 2013 #16

ya. i am sure the men are being picked on and they will not get their cancer screenings and will seabeyond Oct 2013 #23

so you're saying that the number of times a word appears indicates whether it's fair or not? CreekDog Oct 2013 #27

That's because women made a stink about it. pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #53

Men won't get cancer and STD screenings. Uh...sure.... Squinch Oct 2013 #86

my male friend, who is now in his mid-30's, noiretextatique Oct 2013 #4

No. Rex Oct 2013 #5

Irrelevant for me LittleBlue Oct 2013 #6

K/R Just one more similarity between ACA and a full blown single payer plan. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #7

I have to say that if I were 20, making 1.5 times the poverty level, and lived in a state that dsc Oct 2013 #8

yeah but having that choice means they can exclude cancer, heart disease or HIV from other policies CreekDog Oct 2013 #9

I don't think it should be expanded beyond that group dsc Oct 2013 #12

No they won't. I had insurance like that. It didn't do anything for me. CreekDog Oct 2013 #15

If you can come up with anything else that costs as much dsc Oct 2013 #18

I ALREADY asked you that. I asked you about excluding cancer, heart disease, HIV, etc. CreekDog Oct 2013 #20

They don't cost anything remotely as much dsc Oct 2013 #25

i'm not calling you names. I'm stating facts. CreekDog Oct 2013 #31

no you aren't calling names not at all dsc Oct 2013 #35

Apparently, not only can't you read your own posts, you can't read mine. What did I say about age? CreekDog Oct 2013 #37

you would prefer dsc Oct 2013 #44

so, now that you're conceding the sexism, you decide i'm ageist. CreekDog Oct 2013 #48

or maybe they die in their 50's due to not being able to afford the increased rates dsc Oct 2013 #51

yes, that's why i've supported single payer systems CreekDog Oct 2013 #58

I support single payer too dsc Oct 2013 #66

"Male centric"? Do you even read what you yourself post? lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #72

i had two babies and paid cash the first and paid more cash insured the second. that is it. seabeyond Oct 2013 #103

Men get breast cancer too nt riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #111

Another Anti Choicer on DU? pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #59

Why is it that if someone is against equal rights for gay people, they are automatically PPRed Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #70

Because women are women, not people. pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #85

two things dsc Oct 2013 #109

You're actually anti-abortion? Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #112

I believe after a certain set amount of time dsc Oct 2013 #120

And pray tell what exactly is wrong with getting an abortion after 12 weeks? Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #121

frankly I think by then it is much closer to killing a child dsc Oct 2013 #122

Good, then I'll have the last word. Post 12 week abortions do not kill a child... Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #125

No problem pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #136

can i exclude viagra? nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #13

It would save you like 5 cents dsc Oct 2013 #14

Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #17

what part of dsc Oct 2013 #19

I'm quoting you, that's where your position came from. CreekDog Oct 2013 #22

I meant that group of people dsc Oct 2013 #26

because of what you said at the beginning of the argument in this very thread CreekDog Oct 2013 #33

actually it would also protect infertile women dsc Oct 2013 #39

so you want brownie points for protecting the health of infertile women CreekDog Oct 2013 #42

glad you find infertility funny dsc Oct 2013 #45

No, I find your attempt to get credit for including the care of infertile women as morally superior CreekDog Oct 2013 #62

Oh, yes, it's so clear how concerned you are TDale313 Oct 2013 #63

hey... so. prostate cancer? nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #21

He only wants to exclude maternity care because people die of other things CreekDog Oct 2013 #24

oh... fuck. that. nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #28

no dsc Oct 2013 #29

Well then that would be a bad idea too CreekDog Oct 2013 #52

Last I heard, women don't get pregnant without men. hunter Oct 2013 #32

he just has no idea what he's talking about CreekDog Oct 2013 #34

wow glad I am not infertile dsc Oct 2013 #40

Oh, yeah, you're Mr. Sensitivity yourself Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #78

gee glad you didn't say something nasty to me dsc Oct 2013 #79

That wasn't nasty. Believe me, I could say much, much worse. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #88

actually smokers already pay more dsc Oct 2013 #92

I wrote it for your mother. hunter Oct 2013 #93

If I were in the same boat, I'd be fighting like hell to get rid of my Republican governor. SolutionisSolidarity Oct 2013 #38

that is great advice for 2014 or for NC 2016 dsc Oct 2013 #41

Nevermind, got my posts mixed up SolutionisSolidarity Oct 2013 #54

in fairness they have been released from the mandate dsc Oct 2013 #56

because no one ever has an unplanned pregnancy, right? (nt) Nine Oct 2013 #46

well say they do get pregnant dsc Oct 2013 #47

Women die due to pregnancy and birth gollygee Oct 2013 #61

if it is at home no amount of insurance will save them dsc Oct 2013 #64

Are you just messing with us? (nt) Nine Oct 2013 #83

I am not advocating a wide spread exemption to gender neutral ratings dsc Oct 2013 #91

Young women are vastly more likely to experience pregnancy than cancer. LeftyMom Oct 2013 #101

which is why I don't think this should be widespread dsc Oct 2013 #107

Why just pregnancy? LeftyMom Oct 2013 #110

at age 20, I bet you would save pretty much 0 dsc Oct 2013 #114

You know what else isn't likely at 20? Cancer. You know what is? Pregnancy. LeftyMom Oct 2013 #118

because it is a huge part of the cost of the policy dsc Oct 2013 #119

You're arguing that women shouldn't get the care they actually need because it's too expensive. LeftyMom Oct 2013 #123

again in over half the states all of them dsc Oct 2013 #126

Why do you want to require women to buy health care insurance that doesn't cover their health care? LeftyMom Oct 2013 #127

If they want a policy that include maternity coverage then they should get one dsc Oct 2013 #128

What care for men do you want to exclude to keep costs down? LeftyMom Oct 2013 #131

If you were 20 and female, pregnancy would be far your most likely significant medical expense. LeftyMom Oct 2013 #96

for the people in that income class dsc Oct 2013 #97

Are you aware of the disparity in quality of care women and children on Medicaid receive? LeftyMom Oct 2013 #98

then we shouldn't be saying dsc Oct 2013 #99

You don't know the difference between Medicare and Medicaid. LeftyMom Oct 2013 #105

we are covering those people through Medicaid dsc Oct 2013 #108

Nobody was arguing for "Medicaid for all" as in your post, the slogan was "Medicare for all" LeftyMom Oct 2013 #113

Medicare for all would be worse dsc Oct 2013 #117

Let me make this simple for you. Nine Oct 2013 #132

I said, Young Men! NuclearDem Oct 2013 #10

Is it fun to stay at the YMCA? Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #49

It's fun to sign up for NuclearDem Oct 2013 #73

* Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #129

I'm still pissed at paying more for car insurance 1000words Oct 2013 #11

I was going to say this as well. Travis_0004 Oct 2013 #36

Guys, woolldog Oct 2013 #57

I will second that ChazII Oct 2013 #77

Except asians Travis_0004 Oct 2013 #115

A sense of humor??? ChazII Oct 2013 #134

Right? hello double standard RedCappedBandit Oct 2013 #135

Maybe a more appropriate question is Turbineguy Oct 2013 #30

Just wanted to say Control-Z Oct 2013 #95

Yeah, I'm simply foaming and frothing with outrage about ... um ... uh ... about ... struggle4progress Oct 2013 #43

No. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #50

The only problem i have with the ACA is that they demand all plans to have maternity care darkangel218 Oct 2013 #55

Indeed. It's a peeve of mine, and a logstanding gripe about the maternity coverage thing. Xithras Oct 2013 #65

The right thing to say would be.. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #67

I don't really take that approach to the issue. Xithras Oct 2013 #84

because we all have a vested interest in healthy babies? Skittles Oct 2013 #68

Pregnency is ( still, thank god) a choice. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #71

? Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #80

No. if you chose to smoke, you should have a different premium. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #90

and if you drink to excess? bettyellen Oct 2013 #106

WTF Skittles Oct 2013 #130

It's intriguing that it's okay to be against compulsory insurance that you don't plan on using. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #69

I agree. Im appalled that regular prostate screenings aren't covered by ACA. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #75

+100 ChazII Oct 2013 #81

Most guys with prostate cancer don't die of it. hunter Oct 2013 #116

Maternity care is medical care. Lars39 Oct 2013 #74

Needing meternity care is a CHOICE. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #76

Everyone pays for everyone's whatever so that society as a whole is healthier Lars39 Oct 2013 #82

Prwgnency is not a disease. its achived and carried to term by choice. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #87

Broken limbs aren't either, but they get medical care. Lars39 Oct 2013 #89

It is a worthwhile tradeoff. It's hard to reconcile being for single-payer and against this. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #60

not necessarily dsc Oct 2013 #124

I'm only upset that Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #94

A few states, Minnesota being one of them, did away with different male/female pricing years ago dflprincess Oct 2013 #100

I hope that everyone who considers maternity to be "extra" is ponying up Starry Messenger Oct 2013 #102

Why are different rates by sex even allowed? n/t devils chaplain Oct 2013 #104

I'm upset that I have to pay more for car insurance because I'm a man n/t taught_me_patience Oct 2013 #133

How much of a hike are we talking about? 5%? 10%? lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #137

it seems from the article they skewed this by including the uninsured? bettyellen Oct 2013 #138