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PeaceNikki

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71. You don't have to be condescending. Read the rest of my reply.

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Tue Oct 29, 2013, 07:39 PM

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Obama's "You can keep your plan" failed to anticipate how much Americans love cheap crappy plans [View all] PeaceNikki Oct 2013 OP

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And for many in the stupid states that refused to expand Medicaid. PeaceNikki Oct 2013 #2

Did some states that did not start their own exchanges expand medicaid Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #6

WI did neither. I think some states refused expansion and did set up exchanges (I think KY?). PeaceNikki Oct 2013 #8

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$50 a month for crap insurance that caps out at $2000 is not having Insurance... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #3

ACA establishes floor by setting policy standards Skidmore Oct 2013 #9

they were going to get Sticker Stroke if they saw the bill for a major illness without healthcare. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #4

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I am near that age...live in a major city (with rents as high as that) and make that much myself. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #20

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I did put it in for 2 people! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #25

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its NOT on gross income.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #26

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thats how much I put in! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #31

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Yes Kaiser... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #54

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Here is everything... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #57

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You DON"T Itemize with the standard deduction! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #40

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that is NOT what I am reading... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #49

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After FICA? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #65

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and I have no idea what YOU are talking about...I am posting my results... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #28

Please stop saying that. It is wrong BlueStreak Oct 2013 #32

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It is NOT on gross income! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #37

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Nope for 2 people...calculated that in... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #51

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Yes, you are still wrong. It is gross income BlueStreak Oct 2013 #45

no it is not.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #46

Please stop doing this. You are confusing others. BlueStreak Oct 2013 #58

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So then you are saying AGI IS the same as Gross? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #64

It looks like a fair deal. BlueStreak Oct 2013 #73

I readily admit there is plenty of room for improvement... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #74

I get that, but one person's "freaking out" is another person's ... BlueStreak Oct 2013 #75

I see it totally different....if you were paying attention to anywhere but DU you will see there is VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #76

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People are afraid they will have to pay more. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #5

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I always thought the message was more then clear... Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #7

People believed the President and now you are being critical of them for doing so? Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #21

Well, to be fair, it the GOP wasn't talking about Death Panels and insurance fairies BlueStreak Oct 2013 #41

It wasn't a 'likely' scenario, it was a GIVEN. Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #79

I don't think it was a given in the context of 2009 BlueStreak Oct 2013 #81

Not to quibble, but any time you issue blanket guarantees you are gonna get burned... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #82

I don't think there has been any deception about the mandate BlueStreak Oct 2013 #83

The fine is not as small as you think... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #85

It is not a big fine. BlueStreak Oct 2013 #88

$400 Per person in that family during the first year. Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #89

So they should take the Bronze policy BlueStreak Oct 2013 #90

That's certainly one answer... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #92

We need to emphasize personal responsibility. That is what this is all about. BlueStreak Oct 2013 #94

In will be interesting to see how this turns out. nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #97

And re: the bronze policy, it is the same high-quality insurance as the Platinum BlueStreak Oct 2013 #95

And that, my friend, can be all the difference in the world... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #96

It is still far better then the prior situation BlueStreak Oct 2013 #98

We have individual onlyadream Oct 2013 #68

Too many words. "Americans love cheap" would have sufficed. Xithras Oct 2013 #11

These are people who used to get their highs off the baggies of oregano sold on Washington Square PeaceNikki Oct 2013 #12

Well shit. Who wants to pay more than the Canadians, the Germans, the French, etc? NoOneMan Oct 2013 #17

there are many "rugged individualists" who are in denial about their true motives Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #13

Or, with the caps on profits, it will organically lower as a result of a bigger/healthier pool? PeaceNikki Oct 2013 #14

I think they will need to also actively work on lowering typical health care costs Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #16

insurance has bargaining power to negotiate lower rates IronLionZion Oct 2013 #80

Happy to K&R. So glad my son's "insurance" is part of the canceled crap. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #15

I am so very happy that ACA is helping you, me and many others I know. PeaceNikki Oct 2013 #19

Many = 1% zipplewrath Oct 2013 #22

Yes, I think this one is going to leave a mark. HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #23

Our cancelled plan was NOT crappy nor cheap econoclast Oct 2013 #27

So has it been your policy to always employ only those beyond child-bearing age? PeaceNikki Oct 2013 #38

I've worked with these folks for 20 years! econoclast Oct 2013 #42

Yeah, obviously I can't know all of that, nor does it really matter. PeaceNikki Oct 2013 #52

Real backbreaker is DOCTORS! econoclast Oct 2013 #67

And Nikki. By the way ... econoclast Oct 2013 #70

You don't have to be condescending. Read the rest of my reply. PeaceNikki Oct 2013 #71

I feel for you... I was thunderously assaulted for sharing my similar story a few weeks back... ReverendDeuce Oct 2013 #66

But you must be a troll onlyadream Oct 2013 #69

Or it must be my JUNK POLICY... that paid $80K in medical bills in 2011... n/t ReverendDeuce Oct 2013 #86

And you finally indicated you make too much to qualify for a subsidy. And still your premium isn't stevenleser Oct 2013 #84

Premium went from $160 to $234, co-pay/deductibles went WAY up... So what if I don't get a subsidy? ReverendDeuce Oct 2013 #87

I would characterize your situation as a win for the ACA. You can try to spin in how you want. nt stevenleser Oct 2013 #91

A win!? A win for the insurance cartels, maybe... As far as I am concerned, this sucks! n/t ReverendDeuce Oct 2013 #93

+1, but I would state it a little differently BlueStreak Oct 2013 #29

Certainly NOT true for us econoclast Oct 2013 #34

Nice try, Doktor Zoom BKH70041 Oct 2013 #48

plans DustyJoe Oct 2013 #60

That's not 100% true. Glassunion Oct 2013 #77

I am less interested in the out of pocket max than I am about first dollar coverage. Bozvotros Oct 2013 #78