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Demo_Chris

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44. In any discussion involving sexual morality and tribal taboo...
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 10:30 AM
Oct 2013

I always try to distance myself personally from the activity under discussion before assigning value judgments, and instead approach it with the assumption that sex is not something icky, gross, or shameful; and that sexual activity of any sort is fine (if you enjoy it) so long as no one else is being harmed. When considering any sexual activity, once you have dispensed with the first the later becomes much easier to define.

Let's say, for example, that I enjoy slathering myself in Vick's Vapo rub and retreating to my basement to furiously masturbate over back issues of Horse and Hound magazine. As I am sure you are aware, this is a common fetish, but it will do for starters. If we stipulate that there is nothing wrong with masturbation and that the horses are both unaware and uncaring (the hounds are, of course, flattered), it's easy to see that no one is physically harmed by this activity. It is therefore not "sick" -- whatever your own religion based cultural values might suggest.

And this remains true even if we substitute our now ragged Horse and Hound magazine for this month's edition of Cat Fancy or Farm Life, or even a picture of a model in a sailor suit clutching a backpack. Even if we add other people to the mix, labels like sick or wrong are not for you to assign. If my partner enjoys dressing up like a schoolgirl, complete with vending machine panties, and calling me Uncle Tickle, that's really none of your business and it's certainly not your place to call it sick. The most you can say is that it's not a turn on for you.

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The Non-Financial Cost of Stagnation: "Social Recession" and Japan's "Lost Generations" joshcryer Oct 2013 #1
There is no reduction in sex Bonobo Oct 2013 #3
In the youth there is. joshcryer Oct 2013 #7
Maybe, but not much I think. Bonobo Oct 2013 #13
I looked up the data. joshcryer Oct 2013 #18
I think you know -no, I KNOW you know -that surveys can be misleading. Bonobo Oct 2013 #19
But your source said there *were no* statistics. joshcryer Oct 2013 #24
No, they said there were no stats linking the rise of "otaku" and declining birth rate. Bonobo Oct 2013 #27
Thanks, the final line I do agree with. joshcryer Oct 2013 #29
Here's the Vice doco, only 15 minutes: joshcryer Oct 2013 #26
you two say a lot says a lot arely staircase Oct 2013 #28
Love you too arely. joshcryer Oct 2013 #30
good morning josh arely staircase Oct 2013 #32
Thank you for the link and information. nt redqueen Oct 2013 #64
It's not that Japanese men aren't interested in sex Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #2
I don't know, but I've seen a touch too much hentai. moriah Oct 2013 #4
Yes, but making too much of that would be akin to Bonobo Oct 2013 #5
Exactly. That's why I said "I dunno" and admitted my bias. moriah Oct 2013 #6
Yeah, because nobody views Americans as obese rednecks. joshcryer Oct 2013 #8
Yes, they do and it is no excuse to make the same error. Is it? nt Bonobo Oct 2013 #9
I agree it's myopic. joshcryer Oct 2013 #10
America has produced many obese rednecks, so it gets reported on. moriah Oct 2013 #11
For that matter, why are so many tentacled creatures interested in having sex Bonobo Oct 2013 #14
I wonder myself if yoai has an element to do with this. joshcryer Oct 2013 #15
Well, it does create a relatively non-exploitative form of porn that can be produced by both genders moriah Oct 2013 #16
suprising considering how pretty Japanese women are Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #12
Maybe the birth rate has to do with better access to birth control? moriah Oct 2013 #17
you are probably right Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #20
I don't think "better access to birth control" has much to do with it Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #22
wtf?, lmao. hey, they are pretty enough to fuck. really? seabeyond Oct 2013 #33
rumor is that the Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #37
so? that has nothing to do with anything. i also do not have a need for comparative seabeyond Oct 2013 #39
Thank you PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #42
who knows trudy, maybe the guys are not pretty enough. nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #45
I just find it funny that people on DU will complain about oversexed societies, undersexed societies Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #21
it must be the USA's fault Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #23
I blame the Star Folks Lunar Colony Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #25
US fertality rate isn't even 2. joshcryer Oct 2013 #31
It hovers right around 2. Which gives lie to the idea of a "population problem" in the Developed Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #61
"Claim: Vending machines in Japan offer for sale panties purportedly worn by schoolgirls." Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #34
Claim: There are people in rural US that enjoy having sex with sheep. Bonobo Oct 2013 #35
There aren't "numerous vending machines" offering sheep for sex all over the US, though. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #36
Oh, so it's the numbers that bother you. Bonobo Oct 2013 #38
OK, you've convinced me. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #40
OK, it's sick. Bonobo Oct 2013 #41
In any discussion involving sexual morality and tribal taboo... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #44
Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #46
Where did I suggest it was okay to fuck kids? You need to edit that nonsense. Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #49
soiled panties of schoolgirls, country's schoolgirls. girls' junior and high school uniforms seabeyond Oct 2013 #52
You do have a way with words, particularly when putting them into other people's mouths... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #54
you have made yourself clear that fucking child is child rape and you abhor that. that is not what seabeyond Oct 2013 #57
We can discuss that if you like, it might be interesting... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #59
maybe you can use it as a learning experience. cause as much as you are disappointed in my harsh, seabeyond Oct 2013 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Oct 2013 #51
But there should be! I see an entrepreneurial gold mine! nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #43
There aren't numerous vending machines like that in Japan, either. Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #66
Not very common at all here...now in Germany, snooper2 Oct 2013 #47
And there's me thinking that a "zoophile" is somebody who likes zoos. (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #48
DAMN! I should have looked the word up before using it on my job ap at the zoo! nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #50
Thanks for posting that. redqueen Oct 2013 #62
There is some visceral fear, it seems, over a shrinking population bhikkhu Oct 2013 #53
THIS! Bonobo Oct 2013 #55
It's based on economics. redqueen Oct 2013 #63
In a post-industrial automated economy, it doesn't spell any unique trouble bhikkhu Oct 2013 #65
Good article. LittleBlue Oct 2013 #56
They also lead the world in Gojira-related disasters Orrex Oct 2013 #58
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