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WilliamPitt

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Wed Oct 30, 2013, 01:18 PM Oct 2013

FOLKS: There will be No. Grand. Bargain. Period, end of file. [View all]

Paul Ryan Waits Five Whole Minutes Before Killing Grand Bargain
By Sahil Kaptur
TPM

10/30/13

Paul Ryan killed any lingering hopes of a grand bargain within moments of the budget conference kickoff on Wednesday. In his opening remarks, the Wisconsin congressman and chairman of the House budget committee laid down a firm marker against new taxes, which are essential to any major deficit reduction proposal that can pass Congress and be signed into law.

"Taking more from hardworking families just isn't the answer. I know my Republican colleagues feel the same way," Ryan said. "So I want to say this from the get-go: If this conference becomes an argument about taxes, we're not going to get anywhere. The way to raise revenue is to grow the economy."

In the same opening remarks, Ryan urged action on scaling back Social Security and Medicare -- which progressives want to avoid at all costs, and which President Barack Obama and Democratic leaders have promised not to touch without new federal revenues.

The rest: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/paul-ryan-immediately-kills-grand-bargain-at-budget-conference-kickoff

Maybe the President and a bunch of Democrats really want to cut Social Security and Medicare. Maybe they want it so bad it keeps them up nights, sweating into their pillows as they chew their fingernails to the quick.

But it is not going to happen, because these people cannot agree on the wetness of water, much less come to a massive taxes-for-entitlements deal.

Someday, perhaps, The Great Screwing will be upon us. But not this time. Not because they don't want it, but because they simply can't get it done.

Cold comfort, to be sure.

But comfort nonetheless.
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I will wait and see what happens. n/t djean111 Oct 2013 #1
So what's going to happen Jan 15th?... n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2013 #2
Depends on how dumb the Republicans are. jeff47 Oct 2013 #12
Continuing resolution at sequester levels. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #18
Ryan is a hateful little shit. Pay more taxes you fucking billionaires!!!! Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #3
I'd settle for any of them leftynyc Oct 2013 #15
Rand doesn't want to raise taxes on 'hard working families.' pangaia Oct 2013 #4
some are workers and some are takers, right? a guy who helped defeat Nazi Germany Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #5
It just boggles the mind, doesn't it. pangaia Oct 2013 #7
my only concern with the catfood/grand bargain hype is that it distracts geek tragedy Oct 2013 #6
Read this WilliamPitt Oct 2013 #8
I trust Reid, but I don't know how much leverage he actually has. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #11
OK, fine, whatever...anyway, I have an even better bargain for you. I have a bridge for sale...nt Zorra Oct 2013 #9
Hard Working Families? colsohlibgal Oct 2013 #10
Was raising taxes on less then 250k income even on the table? /nt seveneyes Oct 2013 #13
Then why are democratic reps using the phrase? hootinholler Oct 2013 #14
Because WilliamPitt Oct 2013 #16
I really don't think my rep was elected by the same 35% that elected Gohmert hootinholler Oct 2013 #17
THEY SHOULD NOT EVEN BE ON THE TABLE. woo me with science Oct 2013 #19
Agreed. MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #20
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