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Douglas Carpenter

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54. I only know that he said that he has not ruled it out. I don't know if he would seriously

Wed Oct 30, 2013, 02:03 PM

Oct 2013

contemplate a run or not. I have serious doubt of that. I kind of doubt that Sen. Warren would run either. But based on what Sen. Sanders has said - I have to think it is possible. Sen. Sanders has a remarkable ability to keep the focus on bread and butter issues that strikes a chord with the vast majority of ordinary Americans. I do think he would have a fair possibility of winning some primaries and shaking up the status quo. If he were to win enough primaries - then that does put him in the positions of being a viable candidate for the nomination. But at the very least his economic message could extend the range of debate. Anyone who even early in the 2008 election process thought Barack Obama was some kind of great leftwing hope - were truly not paying attention to either his actual words, his actual positions or his actual record. Sen. Sanders is a bona fide Social Democrat and it is a crime that the American body politic does not have within its mainstream of debate the social-democratic perspective. It would be extremely valuable for the future of the Democratic Party, the future of the country and the future of the world to see the social democratic perspective mainstreamed within American electoral politics,

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Perhaps it is all wishful thinking - But if Bernie Sanders did run for President in 2016 - would you [View all] Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 OP

Yes, hell yes. Autumn Oct 2013 #1

It's easy enough to say that I would since I think it's not likely el_bryanto Oct 2013 #2

Were he the Democratic nominee, unhesitatingly Recursion Oct 2013 #3

the question I am asking people is - if he was seeking the Democratic nomination would you support Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #6

Oh, sorry, I totally misunderstood your question Recursion Oct 2013 #7

Why, would he be a different person if he changed the letter after his name? sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #26

He wouldn't be a different person Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #74

Good point. That is where my vote stands. joshcryer Oct 2013 #67

Yes, I would support Bernie - volunteer and contribute money too, but... polichick Oct 2013 #4

I selected pass NuclearDem Oct 2013 #5

Now that's great. I would join right in, and my knees are Autumn Oct 2013 #8

Ha! That's what I would do if he won. polichick Oct 2013 #9

I could see him run against Hillary as Biden ran against Obama -- then being chosen as her VP. ancianita Oct 2013 #10

Absolutely. Sanders is what a standard Democrat should be. PeteSelman Oct 2013 #11

So true - and sad for all of us. polichick Oct 2013 #12

1000% true, that - on every level. Thanks. closeupready Oct 2013 #70

And in reality he isn't fringe at all. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #76

I would prefer Hillary Clinton (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #13

Curious as to why... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #17

Mostly her vast experience in both foreign and domestic policy. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #22

thanks. nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #24

Even though, on foreign policy, she's an unquestioning supporter of the right-wing status quo? Ken Burch Oct 2013 #29

Scoop Jackson in a pantsuit is not a pretty mental image. n/t Chan790 Oct 2013 #35

Bourbon can help, my friend. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #41

But not enough, unfortunately.......nt Enthusiast Nov 2013 #77

Well, Bernie Sanders voted in favor of confirming her as Secretary of State. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #38

I'm thinking Bernie believes that the president should get most of his appointees confirmed. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #40

I vote with Nye - Hillary! OmahaBlueDog Oct 2013 #51

I only vote for Democrats. nt onehandle Oct 2013 #14

The OP was talking about Bernie running in the Dem primaries...at least that was my understanding. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #42

No. He is too old (72) and he will not win. I will vote for the Democrat, always. MADem Oct 2013 #15

he could conceivably take the approach that his campaign - win or lose could possibly alter Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #46

Yes--his candidacy would alter the paradigm, and throw the election to Chris Christie, MADem Oct 2013 #48

My OP asks if Sen. Sanders agreed to seek the Democratic Party nomination - would people support Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #52

That will NEVER happen because the DNC would not give it to him. He is not a Democrat. MADem Oct 2013 #53

I only know that he said that he has not ruled it out. I don't know if he would seriously Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #54

Let's go to that link where that foolish flag was raised, shall we? MADem Oct 2013 #55

maybe it is a leftwing pipe dream - or maybe it is possible that he recognizes that no one else is Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #56

He's more pragmatic. Age does bring wisdom, and he is a septuagenarian. MADem Oct 2013 #58

you are probably right... but I cannot help but ask myself ..how long will we have to wait for Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #59

We'll wait a long time, I suspect. The best hope is gains by steady inches, not by leaps and MADem Oct 2013 #61

Go Bernie! Bernie / Warren 2016! nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #16

What a great combo! Too good to be true? Probably, but it sure... polichick Oct 2013 #19

I would go to WORK to get them elected... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #20

If that was our ticket I'd give up sex to work on the campaign instead! Scuba Oct 2013 #37

Heh-heh! nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #44

+100000000 woo me with science Oct 2013 #73

Oh dangerous poll nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #18

I think it's unlikely Sanders would shift from independent to democrat HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #21

He'd be another Nader treestar Oct 2013 #23

The OP specified it was about Bernie running as a Dem, not third-party. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #30

I would support him even if he ran as an independent or as a demsocialist, morningfog Oct 2013 #25

Why not ask me if I would vote for Mr Magoo in 2020? rock Oct 2013 #27

for those of us bent on ending Hillary before she can declare... Chan790 Oct 2013 #36

I am a Democrat.. and I do not apologize for it Peacetrain Oct 2013 #28

the question I am asking people is - if Sen. Sanders were to seek the Democratic Party nomination - Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #47

I'm voting for Joe krawhitham Oct 2013 #31

Absolutely YES!!! gopiscrap Oct 2013 #32

He's not a Democrat. n/t SamYeager Oct 2013 #33

Unless Liz Warren is running n/t hootinholler Oct 2013 #34

Absolutely TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #39

Depends on who else is running quinnox Oct 2013 #43

Currently 79% for Sanders to run for President. Wilms Oct 2013 #45

If he ran I would do almost anything to help as long as he's the top of the ticket. n/t Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #49

He'll get my vote. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #50

He would be a great addition for the debates, but couldn't win. I hope he runs simply to grantcart Oct 2013 #57

I would support Sanders only until he loses the nomination.. fadedrose Oct 2013 #60

Running Bernie Sanders as the Democratic nominee beaglelover Oct 2013 #62

Bernie would get my vote (nt) bigwillq Oct 2013 #63

I would leave the country, because it would mean a GOP President scheming daemons Oct 2013 #64

I think Bernie Sanders' economic message resonates with almost everybody except the rich. I doubt Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #65

bread and butter issues. That is what the people are hungry to hear from our leaders. A liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #75

Bernie! AzDar Oct 2013 #66

well 83% of DU would support Bernie in the primaries - I hope he sees this Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #68

You mean a guy who will represent the 99% instead of the 1% (like HRC)? Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #69

The Hillary blitzkrieg yesterday is making me hope more and more that Bernie will run. marmar Oct 2013 #71

I'd crawl through broken glass to see him elected. woo me with science Oct 2013 #72

Only one problem with Bernie, he would not run as a democrat B Calm Nov 2013 #78

nationwide as any kind of third party - his chances would be no more than 0% Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #80

why support a candidate that would give the presidency to the republicans...same nader beachbum bob Nov 2013 #79