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leftyladyfrommo

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115. yes. i was in college when kent State happened.

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 10:54 AM

Oct 2013

But back then that was a real aberration. There were also military like operations against other urban terrorists. Not that the kent State students were urban terrorists. But there were all of those Underground, anti government groups - the Weathermen and such.

Now this black boot stuff has become fairly common. And the thing is. They break down the wrong door, kill your dogs, wreck your house and then don't even say "sorry." It's just standard operating procedure.

I was thinking about the spying thing yesterday. There has always been spying and spies and international intrigue. But the internet has just made it ridiculously easy. I would bet anything that everybody is doing it and everybody is denying and acting outraged. But everyone knows it goes on all the time.

Why don't they just stay off the grid?

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police smell meth - raid house, kill 80 year old man find no meth. [View all] littlewolf Oct 2013 OP

This kind of crap has got to stop. CanonRay Oct 2013 #1

I'm surprised. Usually cops carrry enough "throw down" meth to make the raid a success. russspeakeasy Oct 2013 #27

Our police are taking out people like they are on a military operation! Baitball Blogger Oct 2013 #2

Thread Winner FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author Cronus Protagonist Oct 2013 #63

You fuckin' A know it's coming. TransitJohn Oct 2013 #77

Because it IS a military operation Scootaloo Oct 2013 #67

They ARE--and we are the occupied enemy population. nt tblue37 Oct 2013 #91

What THE HELL happened to our CIVIL RIGHTS! Baitball Blogger Oct 2013 #110

Military and the police have to be shut down. We are paying for this. reddread Oct 2013 #3

Thanks for the link. SoapBox Oct 2013 #42

This kind of stuff scares me way more than NSA stuff. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2013 #4

Uh... Oilwellian Oct 2013 #14

Then why didn't they know this raid was worthless? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #23

Government over-reach is government over-reach - no matter the source. lark Oct 2013 #16

Sorry. Govt over reach with black boots and semi automatics leftyladyfrommo Oct 2013 #65

OWS - check lark Oct 2013 #113

yes. i was in college when kent State happened. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2013 #115

It is all part of the same system: the national security state. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #59

This is just sooooo unacceptable! CrispyQ Oct 2013 #5

The militarization of police and not being held accountable sakabatou Oct 2013 #75

So depressing... TeeYiYi Oct 2013 #6

If they're going to go by smell, KamaAina Oct 2013 #7

Sometimes dogs can be reliable. Eager-to-please dogs can also alert on whatever they think will AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #10

...AND on what the handlers "interpret " from the dog's behavior. bvar22 Oct 2013 #58

A "drug-sniffing" dog couldn't keep away from me once at an international airport Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #76

Sad - so what's the defense? How do we stop it? jtuck004 Oct 2013 #8

great questions 99th_Monkey Oct 2013 #17

In France, thje sans-culottes revolted, got rid of the tyrants. jtuck004 Oct 2013 #41

I suspect it's likely to be a "bloodbath" either way, eventually. 99th_Monkey Oct 2013 #48

What I think will happen, as opposed to a revolution where people try to build something new, jtuck004 Oct 2013 #56

What I have been pondering 2naSalit Oct 2013 #24

We need a national commission on law enforcement standards and practices. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #111

When all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #9

How long will we allow this? nt Logical Oct 2013 #11

no PatrynXX Oct 2013 #12

Terry Gilliam tried to warn us about this 28 years ago, but we didn't listen 99th_Monkey Oct 2013 #13

one way we stop this is to hold cops littlewolf Oct 2013 #15

You're right. Iggo Oct 2013 #39

They thought they were vindicated in their killing of an innocent 80-year-old man gollygee Oct 2013 #18

Where drug policy and gun policy intersect. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #19

They couldn't knock on the door? tblue Oct 2013 #20

Yes. "No-knock" warrrants. Cops NEVER get punished for killings, even at wrong addresses. WinkyDink Oct 2013 #22

They need to get rid of these no knock warrants and end the war on drugs. Th1onein Oct 2013 #82

We should own guns for protection, and then, when we want to protect ourselves, the cops kill us!! WinkyDink Oct 2013 #21

It sounds like it was reasonable for Mr Mallory think he was under attack. aikoaiko Oct 2013 #25

Damn. Owl Oct 2013 #26

And you know the stock response --- "There will be an Internal Affairs investigation." lpbk2713 Oct 2013 #28

They hate us for our freedoms The Wizard Oct 2013 #29

of course if we legalized drugs all this would stop. littlewolf Oct 2013 #31

Two points TransitJohn Oct 2013 #79

Assuming it all went down as described in the article. How can anyone support this? penultimate Oct 2013 #32

Guaranteed judicial finding: "Police were acting within scope of their authority." Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #108

fuck tha police frylock Oct 2013 #33

Clearly there was no meth smell (just an excuse), so why did they go in there? valerief Oct 2013 #34

Sometimes I think they just get bored. It's a game to them. Incitatus Oct 2013 #61

For those who think that the cops only kill Black Americans, here's what he looked like: AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #35

They kill whoever they want to and get away with it. Rex Oct 2013 #46

No-knock raids by SWAT teams are estimated to be 70,000 to 80,000 per year, and growing. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #51

He was prolly a social security moocher anyway. Good riddance. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #89

"Mallory, who had celebrated his 80th birthday one month prior to his death, had no criminal record. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #36

The shocking thing here is the justification for the raid jmowreader Oct 2013 #37

So who ratted the guy off in the first place? NBachers Oct 2013 #83

Mineral spirits have a strong and pervasive aroma jmowreader Oct 2013 #88

Yay, Cops! Iggo Oct 2013 #38

+1 You win this one! Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #53

Well there will be those who say it's the 80-year-old man's fault for allowing the ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #40

They will say he reached for a gun and deserved to be killed. Rex Oct 2013 #47

The best report of an LEO who shot a totally innocent person was reported here: AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #52

Plus, the cops had to kill him, they feared for their safety. TransitJohn Oct 2013 #80

Maybe it would help to hire less fearful cops. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #84

His ranch was probably a Halliburton or Koch brothers illegal Hubert Flottz Oct 2013 #90

This shit really has to stop. It's like we're living in some kind of dystopian police state. Matariki Oct 2013 #43

WTF is going on with these police forces? TBF Oct 2013 #44

FIRST RESPONDERS ARE HEROES!!!!!!111111111 datasuspect Oct 2013 #45

I was under the mistaken perception that onethatcares Oct 2013 #49

No, I don't feel safer ellie Oct 2013 #50

What does meth smell like? Recursion Oct 2013 #54

A well used and unclean cat box. L0oniX Oct 2013 #98

Tell me again the such as this is not police-state tactics on 'roids. indepat Oct 2013 #55

The 'cure' is worse than the problem. CFLDem Oct 2013 #57

What "cure" is worse than meth? What do you mean? uppityperson Oct 2013 #74

By 'cure' I mean CFLDem Oct 2013 #95

Is the problem the police do not react right, or the fact they go after meth labs? uppityperson Oct 2013 #106

I concur that the problem is with police tactics. CFLDem Oct 2013 #114

Drug prohibtion is worse than meth. Drug use should be viewed as a public health issue. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #112

Prohibition is a failed public policy. nt TeamPooka Oct 2013 #60

Fucking pigs lillypaddle Oct 2013 #62

Fucking asshole cops, gopiscrap Oct 2013 #64

more info: Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #66

When do they go on trial for murder one? Hubert Flottz Oct 2013 #68

police have full immunity, no matter what happens. nt littlewolf Oct 2013 #71

Check this out Littlewolf Hubert Flottz Oct 2013 #72

Wow. You should post that as an OP. cui bono Oct 2013 #86

The glorification of the uniform must stop! Dawson Leery Oct 2013 #69

Another victory for teh Drug War! Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #70

Dick "dick" Cheney would say that it was a success because we now KNOW he didn't have a meth lab. corkhead Oct 2013 #73

Pig scum. How many of those assholes feel any remorse? Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #78

Just like WMD ourfuneral Oct 2013 #81

80 year old model citizen with impaired vision dies in a hail of police bullets NBachers Oct 2013 #85

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #87

Police state neoAmerica. woo me with science Oct 2013 #92

Widow of elderly man killed by LA deputies seeks $50M in lawsuit OKNancy Oct 2013 #93

good I hope she wins every dime and more. eom littlewolf Oct 2013 #94

Murder and not so much as an apology to his family? AAO Oct 2013 #96

Stories like this JackInGreen Oct 2013 #97

The Blue Fascists strike again! Oakenshield Oct 2013 #99

Cue the badge sniffers in 5...4...3...2...1... Nanjing to Seoul Oct 2013 #100

GAWD. What a horrible way to end a life--by a police gun--for riversedge Oct 2013 #101

When is something going to be done? damnedifIknow Oct 2013 #102

Widow to Sue Over Fatal Shooting of Husband, 80, by Sheriff�s Deputies riversedge Oct 2013 #103

Good thing law enforcement officers had guns to keep us all safe. closeupready Oct 2013 #104

TV said body cremated before wife could see it or have an autopsy. Festivito Oct 2013 #105

That happened a few years ago in PA JPZenger Oct 2013 #107

War mentality. Coyotl Oct 2013 #109