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Egalitarian Thug

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130. I believe the point is that revolutions are something to generally be avoided, and that

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 02:18 PM

Oct 2013

the people most able to make that happen seem to be convinced that the profits in chaos outweigh the risks/consequences to themselves, and further, that they are wrong.

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Is There a Revolution Coming? Americans Finally Realize Global Capitalism Is a Murderous Sham [View all] xchrom Oct 2013 OP

when enough people are starving and losing their shirts.... ejpoeta Oct 2013 #1

Therein lies the problem .... Myrina Oct 2013 #38

I find that a healthy dose of Christian scripture... Cannikin Oct 2013 #138

We may also have to learn how to fix stupid before Zorra Oct 2013 #50

that is true. they have people blaming a group who has absolutely no ejpoeta Nov 2013 #171

"Global capitalism?" So is domestic capitalism...it was murdering long before global capitalism. kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #169

And don't forget other evil capitalist countries like Norway, Switzerland, Denmark and Germany. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #2

Nicely said. n/t pampango Oct 2013 #9

Yes, those liberal (but still capitalist) countries ... Laelth Oct 2013 #28

They have a good combination of capitalism and socialism... polichick Oct 2013 #87

And LOTS of free trade (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #91

They also have tons of protections for their people... polichick Oct 2013 #98

And what of the people who live in the developing countries where their products are made? antigone382 Nov 2013 #160

You'll get no disagreement from me - Fair trade chocolate, coffee, etc... polichick Nov 2013 #161

How will those injustices cause an armed uprising in America? GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #165

My response was really more to the topic in the subthread than the thread as a whole. antigone382 Nov 2013 #166

Well said! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2013 #59

I don't think capitalism is evil, so much as it is unbalanced by a lack of socialism and communism. Th1onein Oct 2013 #110

I would argue that they do indeed put a "friendly face" on something that is evil. antigone382 Nov 2013 #167

When you line me up against the wall, please aim for the head..... brooklynite Oct 2013 #3

yada, yada, yada Zorra Oct 2013 #75

He's right - TBF Oct 2013 #81

It's already happening in Europe where the results of Wall St/Friedman sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #154

yes - TBF Nov 2013 #157

No revolution coming. Things aren't anywhere near that bad. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #4

Current economic statistics... sendero Oct 2013 #6

Got anything to back up that statement? 99Forever Oct 2013 #18

Yes. 67 years of life. See post #30. N/T GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #71

Oh my. 99Forever Oct 2013 #139

Actually, it is that you seemed not have learned the lessons that life has to offer. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #142

These statements, smartguy: 99Forever Nov 2013 #146

Check out these posts: GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #149

Whether "life is better" depends entirely .. 99Forever Nov 2013 #162

It's an Internet Revolution! snooper2 Oct 2013 #118

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #168

From my perspective, things have been getting worse for "most" U.S. citizens for 40+ years. Laelth Oct 2013 #30

"from my perspective" is the operative phrase here... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #31

Not really. It's easily backed up with facts. Google is your friend. marmar Oct 2013 #39

then do so please... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #41

Let's take a look at 50 years ago and now. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #69

I'm sorry, but that just reeks of the RW talking points about how the poor aren't actually poor. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #73

I lived in 1963. For that matter, 1953 also. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #84

Thank you for bringing perspective CFLDem Oct 2013 #93

Also from 50 years ago: the USA was ramping up a massive military intervention in Vietnam muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #119

True. N/T GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #120

What used to be cartoonishly open villainy has just been replaced by covert means. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #126

You foolishly think that the 99% want revolution. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #133

The 60's would be impossible now. hollowdweller Nov 2013 #170

things getting worse tradesMan53 Nov 2013 #153

I've got something better - FACTS TBF Oct 2013 #82

I posted facts too. Do you deny they facts I posted? GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #90

I think conditions will warrant whether folks revolt - TBF Oct 2013 #99

The masses are not starving. In fact, we have an epidemic of obesity. N/T GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #101

Let's examine your assertions - TBF Oct 2013 #104

SNAP people are not the majority. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #107

Oh I don't agree with revolution in this country - TBF Oct 2013 #115

The OP claims that the country is on the edge of revolt now. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #129

"Masses are content" - TBF Oct 2013 #132

That's not true at all. In fact, it's completely backwards. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #106

The masses are not starving. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #109

You're still completely wrong that an obesity epidemic is evidence that hunger isn't a problem. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #111

Yes, our diet of choice, and lack of exercise is terrible. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #122

I was going to bother nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #145

malnutrition tradesMan53 Nov 2013 #156

Fast foods are more expensive than stuff that has to be prepared. GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #158

"Most folks" as defined by your link-free anecdotes? bobduca Oct 2013 #44

Go to dictionary.com. "Most" is defined there. N/T GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #46

So a majority of "folks" are getting richer? bobduca Oct 2013 #48

I didn't say richer, I said life is better. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #70

I work at a food bank and say you are full of baloney. Things are getting worse every day. rhett o rick Oct 2013 #144

What percentage of the population relies upon SNAP, or Meals-on-wheels? GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #147

More important is the fact that the disparity is growing wider. When I am working with rhett o rick Nov 2013 #148

We are discussing armed revolution. GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #150

yeah as soon as everyone gets through buying sneakers with lights in them arely staircase Oct 2013 #5

LOL! +1000 VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #32

No mention of an alternative system seveneyes Oct 2013 #7

The alternative system would be to level the playing field. Hotler Oct 2013 #19

do you really see that happening? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #33

I don't, we live in a very controlled group think society, many never question, and RKP5637 Oct 2013 #61

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #102

No Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #8

How is dkf? Seen him lately? Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #78

So DU is unanimous in their support for HC? Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #80

So Straw Men are your specialty? Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #83

I love you Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #89

A revolution would be the worst thing to happen to this country. KY5 Oct 2013 #10

I agree Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #12

Agreed. Those who seek this "revolution" have no idea what pain it would cause... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #34

Ultimately, is there much of a difference? Myrina Oct 2013 #42

Have you looked into them? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #49

Where I am, there is elder abuse EVERYWHERE. Myrina Oct 2013 #52

Assisted Living Facilities are apartments that are designed for older folks. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #97

I agree. HappyMe Oct 2013 #51

And, there is no guarantee anything would be better, in fact, it could be a lot RKP5637 Oct 2013 #64

Exactly. HappyMe Oct 2013 #68

Except it's getting virtually impossible to do even that. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #76

It's akin to a cancer that has been allowed to spread, it's a deplorable situation. If, there RKP5637 Oct 2013 #96

The information limited herd is smart enough to know that a violent revolution would be a disaster. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #103

We definitely need a paradigm shift - might be messy for a while... polichick Oct 2013 #108

Agent Mike says: "Bring it on!" Earth_First Oct 2013 #11

What gives you the right? Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #47

That's some serious nonsense. And the last paragrpah is hilarious. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #13

The great thing about freedom is that you can try what you want. gulliver Oct 2013 #14

Excellent post. N/T GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #36

Well said! RKP5637 Oct 2013 #67

Take a look around Blecht Oct 2013 #125

Laughably desperate nonsense. No revolution in the US until TV goes dark & the stores run out of FSogol Oct 2013 #15

k/r marmar Oct 2013 #16

If there would be revolution coming to America, sufrommich Oct 2013 #17

I consider the chance of revolution to be infinitesimal. MineralMan Oct 2013 #20

There is no revolution coming, nor should there be... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #21

Well said. randome Oct 2013 #23

People don't need 'enlightenment' to want higher wages leftstreet Oct 2013 #86

A New Enlightenment would include how people think about work and wages. nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #92

Finally, I think the whole world is waking up to it. nt. polly7 Oct 2013 #22

I hope not. They generally kill a lot of people and make things much worse (nt) Recursion Oct 2013 #24

There won't be a revolution. That's a dirty, foreign, hysterical thing. sibelian Oct 2013 #25

! xchrom Oct 2013 #29

That is the "American Exceptionalism" argument in stark terms. bobduca Oct 2013 #43

Which version of Utopia follows this mass revolution? JoePhilly Oct 2013 #55

hope so! gopiscrap Oct 2013 #26

Interesting. Laelth Oct 2013 #27

Revolution will come....but not in the U.S. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #35

Chris Hedges actively works against the Democratic Party oberliner Oct 2013 #37

"a rival political party" aka Greens... bobduca Oct 2013 #57

Green Party candidates attack Democrats and Republicans with equal vigor oberliner Oct 2013 #65

And your point is? truebluegreen Oct 2013 #58

...that we should ignore anyone but our Party Leaders(tm) bobduca Oct 2013 #60

Helping elect more Democrats to political office at all levels of American government oberliner Oct 2013 #63

Bingo. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #85

This person is not an ally in the fight to get Democrats elected oberliner Oct 2013 #66

Some things are bigger than partisan politics. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #77

Such as dismantling global capitalism? oberliner Oct 2013 #112

Surprise, when you push leftists out of the party in favor of centrist corporatists NuclearDem Oct 2013 #79

There are plenty of leftist Democrats oberliner Oct 2013 #113

Left by the American standard of left-right. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #117

Agreed oberliner Oct 2013 #128

I'd consider him an ally in the fight for a better democracy... truebluegreen Oct 2013 #88

He works against getting Democrats elected oberliner Oct 2013 #114

Read what I said again. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #124

I don't see how it makes for better democracy and better Democrats oberliner Oct 2013 #127

Why, yes. Yes I am. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #131

I'm happy with the Democrats we have oberliner Oct 2013 #135

I'm glad you are happy. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #137

A revolution will never occur in this country because millions here are too apathetic to do anything Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #40

Nooooooo no no no no NO. It's not "too much work". sibelian Oct 2013 #45

Or because too few people here want to kill Seeking Serenity Oct 2013 #72

Hmmm. Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #74

We can hope - cuz the status quo is unsustainable... polichick Oct 2013 #53

In a related story, when is "Honey Boo-Boo" back on the air? nt tridim Oct 2013 #54

More people are finally getting it that capitalism highly rewards cheaters, crooks, RKP5637 Oct 2013 #56

and then the media will crush it as if it never existed. librechik Oct 2013 #62

One thing is for sure nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #94

"Viva La Revolucion! CFLDem Oct 2013 #95

Populations don't revolt over abstract ideas. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #100

Revolution: Where centrists practice fundamentalist belief that it won't happen, Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #105

There won't be an anti-capitalist revolution because there aren't enough stupid people FreeJoe Oct 2013 #116

The examples of great capitalist societies that you give are actually... polichick Nov 2013 #152

Revolution: jazzimov Oct 2013 #121

Revolutions are generally unsuccessful -- what revolution would you consider a success? FarCenter Oct 2013 #123

I believe the point is that revolutions are something to generally be avoided, and that Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #130

Modern revolutions, and some modern definitions of revolution: Zorra Oct 2013 #134

Not if 'quality of life' goes up for everyone in the country. Rex Oct 2013 #136

I used to think so Boom Sound 416 Oct 2013 #140

Yes, but if you are over 40 it's unlikely you'll live to see it. 1000words Oct 2013 #141

We are evolving Mosaic Oct 2013 #143

Evolution does not have a direction. GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #151

Hey, whatever gets rid of the Re-branded Feudalism, I'm all for it. HughBeaumont Nov 2013 #155

Do you really think you would be happy living through an armed revolution - if you survive? N/T GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #159

I said "Whatever gets rid of the Re-branded Feudalism". HughBeaumont Nov 2013 #163

The OP is about violent, armed, killing and being killed, revolution in America. GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #164