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In reply to the discussion: Is There a Revolution Coming? Americans Finally Realize Global Capitalism Is a Murderous Sham [View all]Zorra
(27,670 posts)134. Modern revolutions, and some modern definitions of revolution:
Revolution
a fundamental change in political organization; especially : the overthrow or renunciation of one government or ruler and the substitution of another by the governed
c : activity or movement designed to effect fundamental changes in the socioeconomic situation
d : a fundamental change in the way of thinking about or visualizing something : a change of paradigm <the Copernican revolution>
a fundamental change in political organization; especially : the overthrow or renunciation of one government or ruler and the substitution of another by the governed
c : activity or movement designed to effect fundamental changes in the socioeconomic situation
d : a fundamental change in the way of thinking about or visualizing something : a change of paradigm <the Copernican revolution>
Example(s) of successful revolution:
"In the nineteen-sixties, apartheid was driven out of America. Legal segregation Jim Crow ended. We didn't end racism, but we ended legal segregation. We ended the idea that you can send a million soldiers ten thousand miles away to fight in a war that people do not support. We ended the idea that women are second-class citizens. Now, it doesn't matter who sits in the Oval Office. But the big battles that were won in that period of civil war and strife you cannot reverse. We were young, we were reckless, arrogant, silly, headstrong ... and we were right! I regret nothing!" ~ Abbie Hoffman
"Revolution is not something fixed in ideology, nor is it something fashioned to a particular decade. It is a perpetual process embedded in the human spirit. When all today's isms have become yesterday's ancient philosophy, there will still be reactionaries and there will still be revolutionaries. No amount of rationalization can avoid the moment of choice each of us brings to our situation here on the planet. I still believe in the fundamental injustice of the profit system and do not accept the proposition there will be rich and poor for all eternity." ~ Abbie Hoffman
Occupy Wall Street is a leaderless resistance movement with people of many colors, genders and political persuasions. The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The 99% that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%. We are using the revolutionary Arab Spring tactic to achieve our ends and encourage the use of nonviolence to maximize the safety of all participants.
The only solution is WorldRevolution.
Occupy Wall Street allowed those silenced by shame, invisibility or lack of interest from the media to speak up. As a result, the realities behind our particular economic game came to be described more accurately; so much so that the media and politicians had to change their language to adjust to a series of previously ignored realities.
Part of what gave Occupy its particular beauty was the way the movement defined "we" as the 99%. That phrase (along with that contagious meme "the 1%"
entered our language, offering a far more inclusive way of imagining the world.
The encampments are now gone, but things that were born in them survive: coalitions and alliances and senses of possibility and frameworks for understanding what's wrong and what could be right.
On this, the second anniversary of that day in Lower Manhattan when people first sat down in outrage and then stayed in dedication and solidarity and hope, remember them. Remember how unpredictably the world changes; remember those doing heroic work whom you might hear little about but who are all around you; remember to hope; remember to build; remember that Parisian drummer girl. Remember that you are, most likely, part of the 99%, and take up the burden that is also an invitation to change the world and occupy your dreams.
Part of what gave Occupy its particular beauty was the way the movement defined "we" as the 99%. That phrase (along with that contagious meme "the 1%"
The encampments are now gone, but things that were born in them survive: coalitions and alliances and senses of possibility and frameworks for understanding what's wrong and what could be right.
On this, the second anniversary of that day in Lower Manhattan when people first sat down in outrage and then stayed in dedication and solidarity and hope, remember them. Remember how unpredictably the world changes; remember those doing heroic work whom you might hear little about but who are all around you; remember to hope; remember to build; remember that Parisian drummer girl. Remember that you are, most likely, part of the 99%, and take up the burden that is also an invitation to change the world and occupy your dreams.
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Is There a Revolution Coming? Americans Finally Realize Global Capitalism Is a Murderous Sham [View all]
xchrom
Oct 2013
OP
"Global capitalism?" So is domestic capitalism...it was murdering long before global capitalism.
kelliekat44
Nov 2013
#169
And don't forget other evil capitalist countries like Norway, Switzerland, Denmark and Germany.
Nye Bevan
Oct 2013
#2
And what of the people who live in the developing countries where their products are made?
antigone382
Nov 2013
#160
My response was really more to the topic in the subthread than the thread as a whole.
antigone382
Nov 2013
#166
I don't think capitalism is evil, so much as it is unbalanced by a lack of socialism and communism.
Th1onein
Oct 2013
#110
I would argue that they do indeed put a "friendly face" on something that is evil.
antigone382
Nov 2013
#167
Actually, it is that you seemed not have learned the lessons that life has to offer.
GreenStormCloud
Oct 2013
#142
From my perspective, things have been getting worse for "most" U.S. citizens for 40+ years.
Laelth
Oct 2013
#30
I'm sorry, but that just reeks of the RW talking points about how the poor aren't actually poor.
NuclearDem
Oct 2013
#73
Also from 50 years ago: the USA was ramping up a massive military intervention in Vietnam
muriel_volestrangler
Oct 2013
#119
What used to be cartoonishly open villainy has just been replaced by covert means.
NuclearDem
Oct 2013
#126
The masses are not starving. In fact, we have an epidemic of obesity. N/T
GreenStormCloud
Oct 2013
#101
You're still completely wrong that an obesity epidemic is evidence that hunger isn't a problem.
NuclearDem
Oct 2013
#111
I work at a food bank and say you are full of baloney. Things are getting worse every day.
rhett o rick
Oct 2013
#144
What percentage of the population relies upon SNAP, or Meals-on-wheels?
GreenStormCloud
Nov 2013
#147
More important is the fact that the disparity is growing wider. When I am working with
rhett o rick
Nov 2013
#148
yeah as soon as everyone gets through buying sneakers with lights in them
arely staircase
Oct 2013
#5
I don't, we live in a very controlled group think society, many never question, and
RKP5637
Oct 2013
#61
Agreed. Those who seek this "revolution" have no idea what pain it would cause...
VanillaRhapsody
Oct 2013
#34
Assisted Living Facilities are apartments that are designed for older folks.
GreenStormCloud
Oct 2013
#97
And, there is no guarantee anything would be better, in fact, it could be a lot
RKP5637
Oct 2013
#64
It's akin to a cancer that has been allowed to spread, it's a deplorable situation. If, there
RKP5637
Oct 2013
#96
The information limited herd is smart enough to know that a violent revolution would be a disaster.
GreenStormCloud
Oct 2013
#103
Laughably desperate nonsense. No revolution in the US until TV goes dark & the stores run out of
FSogol
Oct 2013
#15
I hope not. They generally kill a lot of people and make things much worse (nt)
Recursion
Oct 2013
#24
Helping elect more Democrats to political office at all levels of American government
oberliner
Oct 2013
#63
Surprise, when you push leftists out of the party in favor of centrist corporatists
NuclearDem
Oct 2013
#79
A revolution will never occur in this country because millions here are too apathetic to do anything
Vashta Nerada
Oct 2013
#40
More people are finally getting it that capitalism highly rewards cheaters, crooks,
RKP5637
Oct 2013
#56
Revolution: Where centrists practice fundamentalist belief that it won't happen,
Eleanors38
Oct 2013
#105
There won't be an anti-capitalist revolution because there aren't enough stupid people
FreeJoe
Oct 2013
#116
Revolutions are generally unsuccessful -- what revolution would you consider a success?
FarCenter
Oct 2013
#123
I believe the point is that revolutions are something to generally be avoided, and that
Egalitarian Thug
Oct 2013
#130
Do you really think you would be happy living through an armed revolution - if you survive? N/T
GreenStormCloud
Nov 2013
#159
The OP is about violent, armed, killing and being killed, revolution in America.
GreenStormCloud
Nov 2013
#164