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JoePhilly

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19. Or, they replaced your cardboard box, with a subsidied room, with a bed if you get sick.

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 06:42 PM

Oct 2013

Hey ... that's IS actually much like what they did!!!!

Insurers can't bankrupt you and force you out onto the street, when you get sick. You still get treated, and you are protected by an ot of pocket max, and no life time limits.

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How To Spot A Fake Obamacare Horror Story (very useful!) [View all] geek tragedy Oct 2013 OP

Thank you geek and thinkprogress for helping america sort this out. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #1

Does the story conflict with Obamacare being the most awesome system any nation has ever developed? NoOneMan Oct 2013 #2

Sorry the story had too many words for you to read and understand. Here's a picture for you. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #3

Interesting chart. enlightenment Oct 2013 #4

"except for the 80% largely unaffected" geek tragedy Oct 2013 #5

Parse it how you want it - enlightenment Oct 2013 #6

It's spin on spin geek tragedy Oct 2013 #7

Okay. enlightenment Oct 2013 #8

I'll know on Monday, when my employer's benefit plan comes out. 7962 Oct 2013 #40

Barro's willfully misrepresent what the graph says. Mass Oct 2013 #11

OOPSIE! Purveyor Oct 2013 #105

I don't think I've heard anyone claim that ... I have heard some claim ... JoePhilly Oct 2013 #15

The strawman industry certainly has some adherents ... Hekate Oct 2013 #101

Thanks! Scurrilous Oct 2013 #9

I'm tripling your rent. But I insulated leftstreet Oct 2013 #10

I sell you a cheap car, but its brakes do not work, its direction is not very good, and it has not Mass Oct 2013 #12

If I could afford a better one, I'd have gotten it leftstreet Oct 2013 #13

So, you are against regular tests on cars to make sure they are safe? Mass Oct 2013 #16

That doesn't make any sense leftstreet Oct 2013 #21

"Where was this great wringing of hands and concern� over junk insurance before the ACA? " geek tragedy Oct 2013 #23

I remember when they arrested single payer advocates leftstreet Oct 2013 #24

Do you seriously think that the term "junk insurance" post-dates the ACA? nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #26

It pre-dates "You can keep your insurance" leftstreet Oct 2013 #27

"nanny-state". The only people I know using this expression are from the GOP. Mass Oct 2013 #31

And Democrats would be wise to avoid it leftstreet Oct 2013 #32

Fuck Ron Paul nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #36

Watch it... Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2013 #90

fanatically anti-mandate, opposes basic regulations on health insurance policy geek tragedy Oct 2013 #35

"Nanny state talking points" Uh oh, someone let their Libertarian slip show. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #34

:eyes: leftstreet Oct 2013 #37

Hardy fucking har. A single payer advocate who complains about "nanny state geek tragedy Oct 2013 #42

You don't support single payer leftstreet Oct 2013 #53

No single payer advocate I've ever known would object to getting rid geek tragedy Oct 2013 #54

No working class advocate would blame workers leftstreet Oct 2013 #61

No one is blaming them. Stop making shit up. nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #62

The only way that will end dbackjon Oct 2013 #55

See sub thread with me, and your friend, below. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #43

"people buy what they can afford" is another libertarian talking point nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #44

LOL n/t leftstreet Oct 2013 #51

Junk insurance can still be sold in my state. moriah Oct 2013 #50

did you have to sign a new policy last year? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #56

LOL. Single payer advocate talking about nanny state. JaneyVee Oct 2013 #65

OK, ProSense Oct 2013 #70

That's what's happening leftstreet Oct 2013 #74

No, that's not "what's happening." You seem to be upset that people are attacking shitty plans. ProSense Oct 2013 #76

Yes it is leftstreet Oct 2013 #78

Wait, ProSense Oct 2013 #79

Yes, exactly! leftstreet Oct 2013 #82

You seem to be attempting to blame others for your use of a GOP talking point. n/t ProSense Oct 2013 #83

LOL leftstreet Oct 2013 #85

LOL! No, that's not how you used it. ProSense Oct 2013 #86

Well, that's how I meant it leftstreet Oct 2013 #87

Again, with the attempted blame. "Nanny state" is a GOP phrase. ProSense Oct 2013 #89

I blame no one leftstreet Oct 2013 #91

You can't spin that. ProSense Oct 2013 #94

That makes no sense leftstreet Oct 2013 #96

You used the phrase "nanny state," which you admit is a RW talking point, and ProSense Oct 2013 #98

?? leftstreet Oct 2013 #100

Well, ProSense Oct 2013 #103

I want single payer leftstreet Oct 2013 #106

So ProSense Oct 2013 #107

I thought my characterization was polite leftstreet Oct 2013 #108

Well, ProSense Oct 2013 #109

Sigh n/t leftstreet Oct 2013 #111

I was part of those very concerned. Many people were in fact. We wanted single payer. We did not get Mass Oct 2013 #25

It also won't pass inspection. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #17

Just like the old contracts do not pass Obamacare standard. My point. Mass Oct 2013 #18

Yup ... agreeing with you completely. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #20

More like they added rooms, a roof and indoor plumbing. nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #14

Or, they replaced your cardboard box, with a subsidied room, with a bed if you get sick. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #19

Wow! Medical debt is being waived under the ACA? leftstreet Oct 2013 #22

The amount of out of pocket debt you can accrue is limited. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #29

Oh. You said insurers couldn't bankrupt you leftstreet Oct 2013 #33

Sure, because no one goes bankrupt because their insurance sucks. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #38

That's nonsensical n/t leftstreet Oct 2013 #41

Sure, because no one goes bankrupt because their policy sucks. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #45

You are purposefully obscuring the issue Politicub Oct 2013 #48

There are no caps now! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #58

No... XRubicon Oct 2013 #110

This Halloween, Obamacare Critics Are Trying Their Best To Scare You About Health Reform ProSense Oct 2013 #28

A few Republicans are revealing themselves on this forum as well,. Mass Oct 2013 #30

I was onto that one a long time ago. They came here within 1-2 geek tragedy Oct 2013 #39

I worry more about people who try to shut down discussions leftstreet Oct 2013 #46

So says someone who wants to gut it by removing the individual mandate. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #47

Not gut. Improve leftstreet Oct 2013 #49

Yes, those are the RNC talking points on why the individual mandate should be delayed. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #52

What are the DNC talking points? leftstreet Oct 2013 #57

You're objecting to the ACA banning private geek tragedy Oct 2013 #59

They haven't banned private insurance leftstreet Oct 2013 #64

As opposed to paying 100% out of pocket geek tragedy Oct 2013 #88

removing the mandate IS gutting it...for the reasons noted above. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #63

Uh..the employer mandate, or the individual mandate? leftstreet Oct 2013 #66

take your pick. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #67

Your slip is showing. n/t Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #73

The employer mandate was NOT ESSENTIAL to the tblue37 Oct 2013 #93

I think you guys are onto somthing...its not like it's beneath Wingers to do something like that. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #60

Single payer advocates are troublemakers leftstreet Oct 2013 #68

Single Payer Advocates that don't know when enough is enough.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #69

Obamacare sucks - but it must succeed leftstreet Oct 2013 #71

No YOU don't get it...we DID want Single Payer. But we are realists... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #72

Then you do want it to succeed leftstreet Oct 2013 #75

Not right now I don't... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #77

I wish you did support it leftstreet Oct 2013 #80

I AM thinking about "everyday people" VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #95

That's good! n/t leftstreet Oct 2013 #97

What it needs from us right now....considering the circumstances... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #104

Great! Same things we've been asking at DU Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #81

K&R Tarheel_Dem Oct 2013 #84

I make PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #92

Thsnks for the post. tiredtoo Oct 2013 #99

They sure have them lined up and rolling them out liberal N proud Oct 2013 #102

It's up to the plan owner to determine if it is (was) good or not. BKH70041 Oct 2013 #112

Except when they find out their crappy insurance doesn't cover anything TexasBushwhacker Oct 2013 #113

Except when they show up at an ER, unable to afford to pay afterward SoCalDem Oct 2013 #115

No Exceptions BKH70041 Oct 2013 #116

Yes they can pay in emergencies with their holdings in Beenie Babies XRubicon Oct 2013 #117

IF it's in the Mainstream Media - it's horse fertilizer upi402 Oct 2013 #114