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How To Spot A Fake Obamacare Horror Story (very useful!) [View all] geek tragedy Oct 2013 OP

Thank you geek and thinkprogress for helping america sort this out. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #1

Does the story conflict with Obamacare being the most awesome system any nation has ever developed? NoOneMan Oct 2013 #2

Sorry the story had too many words for you to read and understand. Here's a picture for you. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #3

Interesting chart. enlightenment Oct 2013 #4

"except for the 80% largely unaffected" geek tragedy Oct 2013 #5

Parse it how you want it - enlightenment Oct 2013 #6

It's spin on spin geek tragedy Oct 2013 #7

Okay. enlightenment Oct 2013 #8

I'll know on Monday, when my employer's benefit plan comes out. 7962 Oct 2013 #40

Barro's willfully misrepresent what the graph says. Mass Oct 2013 #11

OOPSIE! Purveyor Oct 2013 #105

I don't think I've heard anyone claim that ... I have heard some claim ... JoePhilly Oct 2013 #15

The strawman industry certainly has some adherents ... Hekate Oct 2013 #101

Thanks! Scurrilous Oct 2013 #9

I'm tripling your rent. But I insulated leftstreet Oct 2013 #10

I sell you a cheap car, but its brakes do not work, its direction is not very good, and it has not Mass Oct 2013 #12

If I could afford a better one, I'd have gotten it leftstreet Oct 2013 #13

So, you are against regular tests on cars to make sure they are safe? Mass Oct 2013 #16

That doesn't make any sense leftstreet Oct 2013 #21

"Where was this great wringing of hands and concern� over junk insurance before the ACA? " geek tragedy Oct 2013 #23

I remember when they arrested single payer advocates leftstreet Oct 2013 #24

Do you seriously think that the term "junk insurance" post-dates the ACA? nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #26

It pre-dates "You can keep your insurance" leftstreet Oct 2013 #27

"nanny-state". The only people I know using this expression are from the GOP. Mass Oct 2013 #31

And Democrats would be wise to avoid it leftstreet Oct 2013 #32

Fuck Ron Paul nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #36

Watch it... Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2013 #90

fanatically anti-mandate, opposes basic regulations on health insurance policy geek tragedy Oct 2013 #35

"Nanny state talking points" Uh oh, someone let their Libertarian slip show. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #34

:eyes: leftstreet Oct 2013 #37

Hardy fucking har. A single payer advocate who complains about "nanny state geek tragedy Oct 2013 #42

You don't support single payer leftstreet Oct 2013 #53

No single payer advocate I've ever known would object to getting rid geek tragedy Oct 2013 #54

No working class advocate would blame workers leftstreet Oct 2013 #61

No one is blaming them. Stop making shit up. nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #62

The only way that will end dbackjon Oct 2013 #55

See sub thread with me, and your friend, below. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #43

"people buy what they can afford" is another libertarian talking point nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #44

LOL n/t leftstreet Oct 2013 #51

Junk insurance can still be sold in my state. moriah Oct 2013 #50

did you have to sign a new policy last year? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #56

LOL. Single payer advocate talking about nanny state. JaneyVee Oct 2013 #65

OK, ProSense Oct 2013 #70

That's what's happening leftstreet Oct 2013 #74

No, that's not "what's happening." You seem to be upset that people are attacking shitty plans. ProSense Oct 2013 #76

Yes it is leftstreet Oct 2013 #78

Wait, ProSense Oct 2013 #79

Yes, exactly! leftstreet Oct 2013 #82

You seem to be attempting to blame others for your use of a GOP talking point. n/t ProSense Oct 2013 #83

LOL leftstreet Oct 2013 #85

LOL! No, that's not how you used it. ProSense Oct 2013 #86

Well, that's how I meant it leftstreet Oct 2013 #87

Again, with the attempted blame. "Nanny state" is a GOP phrase. ProSense Oct 2013 #89

I blame no one leftstreet Oct 2013 #91

You can't spin that. ProSense Oct 2013 #94

That makes no sense leftstreet Oct 2013 #96

You used the phrase "nanny state," which you admit is a RW talking point, and ProSense Oct 2013 #98

?? leftstreet Oct 2013 #100

Well, ProSense Oct 2013 #103

I want single payer leftstreet Oct 2013 #106

So ProSense Oct 2013 #107

I thought my characterization was polite leftstreet Oct 2013 #108

Well, ProSense Oct 2013 #109

Sigh n/t leftstreet Oct 2013 #111

I was part of those very concerned. Many people were in fact. We wanted single payer. We did not get Mass Oct 2013 #25

It also won't pass inspection. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #17

Just like the old contracts do not pass Obamacare standard. My point. Mass Oct 2013 #18

Yup ... agreeing with you completely. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #20

More like they added rooms, a roof and indoor plumbing. nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #14

Or, they replaced your cardboard box, with a subsidied room, with a bed if you get sick. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #19

Wow! Medical debt is being waived under the ACA? leftstreet Oct 2013 #22

The amount of out of pocket debt you can accrue is limited. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #29

Oh. You said insurers couldn't bankrupt you leftstreet Oct 2013 #33

Sure, because no one goes bankrupt because their insurance sucks. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #38

That's nonsensical n/t leftstreet Oct 2013 #41

Sure, because no one goes bankrupt because their policy sucks. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #45

You are purposefully obscuring the issue Politicub Oct 2013 #48

There are no caps now! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #58

No... XRubicon Oct 2013 #110

This Halloween, Obamacare Critics Are Trying Their Best To Scare You About Health Reform ProSense Oct 2013 #28

A few Republicans are revealing themselves on this forum as well,. Mass Oct 2013 #30

I was onto that one a long time ago. They came here within 1-2 geek tragedy Oct 2013 #39

I worry more about people who try to shut down discussions leftstreet Oct 2013 #46

So says someone who wants to gut it by removing the individual mandate. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #47

Not gut. Improve leftstreet Oct 2013 #49

Yes, those are the RNC talking points on why the individual mandate should be delayed. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #52

What are the DNC talking points? leftstreet Oct 2013 #57

You're objecting to the ACA banning private geek tragedy Oct 2013 #59

They haven't banned private insurance leftstreet Oct 2013 #64

As opposed to paying 100% out of pocket geek tragedy Oct 2013 #88

removing the mandate IS gutting it...for the reasons noted above. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #63

Uh..the employer mandate, or the individual mandate? leftstreet Oct 2013 #66

take your pick. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #67

Your slip is showing. n/t Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #73

The employer mandate was NOT ESSENTIAL to the tblue37 Oct 2013 #93

I think you guys are onto somthing...its not like it's beneath Wingers to do something like that. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #60

Single payer advocates are troublemakers leftstreet Oct 2013 #68

Single Payer Advocates that don't know when enough is enough.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #69

Obamacare sucks - but it must succeed leftstreet Oct 2013 #71

No YOU don't get it...we DID want Single Payer. But we are realists... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #72

Then you do want it to succeed leftstreet Oct 2013 #75

Not right now I don't... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #77

I wish you did support it leftstreet Oct 2013 #80

I AM thinking about "everyday people" VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #95

That's good! n/t leftstreet Oct 2013 #97

What it needs from us right now....considering the circumstances... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #104

Great! Same things we've been asking at DU Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #81

K&R Tarheel_Dem Oct 2013 #84

I make PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #92

Thsnks for the post. tiredtoo Oct 2013 #99

They sure have them lined up and rolling them out liberal N proud Oct 2013 #102

It's up to the plan owner to determine if it is (was) good or not. BKH70041 Oct 2013 #112

Except when they find out their crappy insurance doesn't cover anything TexasBushwhacker Oct 2013 #113

Except when they show up at an ER, unable to afford to pay afterward SoCalDem Oct 2013 #115

No Exceptions BKH70041 Oct 2013 #116

Yes they can pay in emergencies with their holdings in Beenie Babies XRubicon Oct 2013 #117

IF it's in the Mainstream Media - it's horse fertilizer upi402 Oct 2013 #114