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Fawke Em

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124. Thank you for getting and making my point.

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 12:14 AM

Nov 2013

None of us are perfect - no region, no race, no gender - none of us.

We are human and fallible. Just because there are a smattering of high schools in the South named after assholes doesn't mean we all are any more than Californians who don't protest schools named after another asshole.

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A question for people in the South. [View all] pnwmom Oct 2013 OP

The lake here on the border is named giftedgirl77 Oct 2013 #1

Yes -- flying the confederate flags is the same thing. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #3

I've suggested using a flame thrower or giftedgirl77 Oct 2013 #9

Stay safe, giftedgirl77 -- while you're stirring the pot! pnwmom Oct 2013 #12

Always safe, but always working to change things giftedgirl77 Oct 2013 #15

That lake used to be Clark Hill Lake. dawg Oct 2013 #36

On the South Carolina side it is still Clarks Hill giftedgirl77 Oct 2013 #63

No it doesn't. dawg Oct 2013 #64

Well then I stand corrected... giftedgirl77 Oct 2013 #65

Hi, neighbor! GoCubsGo Oct 2013 #48

Hello to you as well giftedgirl77 Oct 2013 #66

Wow! We really are neighbors! GoCubsGo Oct 2013 #67

Wow, crazy small world giftedgirl77 Oct 2013 #71

How old are the schools? blueridge3210 Oct 2013 #2

As I said, one was built in the 70's - the other I don't know. pnwmom Oct 2013 #4

But not for the GP6971 Oct 2013 #45

Is it a city that elects liberals, or just another Southern city that elects right wing bigots? Hoyt Oct 2013 #5

It's a weird mixture. pnwmom Oct 2013 #7

In my state, the last Democratic governor got beat mostly over a confederate flag. Hoyt Oct 2013 #13

Have to disagree with you Hoyt. blueridge3210 Oct 2013 #25

Sorry, there are more bigots than teachers. Of course, based upon some I had, Hoyt Oct 2013 #35

Shit, here there's a school named after a big muckety muck of the klan NightWatcher Oct 2013 #6

If that were my kids' school, I'd be out there protesting. pnwmom Oct 2013 #10

He was more than merely the first Grand Wizard Benton D Struckcheon Oct 2013 #17

I read something about that school a couple of weeks ago tnlefty Oct 2013 #19

No schools. Sissyk Oct 2013 #37

OH that's right! I forgot about that... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #51

Remember former Virginia Senator George "Macaca" Allen? LibDemAlways Oct 2013 #61

I think most people today have simply moved on madokie Oct 2013 #8

What do you think about the poster who said their school is named pnwmom Oct 2013 #11

Strom Thrumond High here is a giftedgirl77 Oct 2013 #23

I don't think any controversial person should have a school named after them madokie Oct 2013 #27

I think part of the reason for the disconnect and hurt feelings pnwmom Oct 2013 #38

actually he was a general who became a Klan leader dsc Oct 2013 #82

But shouldn't having been a KKK leader disqualified him from the honor? pnwmom Oct 2013 #83

of course dsc Oct 2013 #108

Most people probably have moved on... bobGandolf Oct 2013 #113

I agree. And names matter. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #115

It was popular in the pre civil rights era supernova Oct 2013 #14

Which is how they got Confederate Memorial Day! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #55

In elementary school, I remember "Lee-Jackson-King Day" all too well... Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #70

No....this is a different day...Confederate Memorial Day is separate from MLK day... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #72

Great question LannyDeVaney Oct 2013 #16

Welcome to DU, LannyDeVaney! pnwmom Oct 2013 #46

The Federal Government has two major military bases named after Confederate Generals . . . Journeyman Oct 2013 #18

Fort Hood, Fort Gordon leftstreet Oct 2013 #20

There you go. Adam-Bomb Oct 2013 #43

Fort Jackson is named for Andrew Jackson, not Stonewall Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #53

The high school I attended CherokeeDem Oct 2013 #21

I visited South Carolina on vacation a few years back after the state bluestate10 Oct 2013 #34

I also went to Wade Hampton High School in Greenvile... Tom Ripley Oct 2013 #52

My great-grandfather was wounded trying to stop a Wade Hampton raid. kwassa Oct 2013 #80

mine was captured after the surrender of Vicksburg arely staircase Oct 2013 #89

From Chicago now living in HSV AL al_liberal Oct 2013 #22

Rocket City indeed. n/t tammywammy Oct 2013 #26

You seem to have the mistaken idea xfundy Oct 2013 #24

Does it bother you at all that our nation's capital celebrates Christopher Columbus? Tanuki Oct 2013 #28

Excellent point! Columbus has his own federal holiday, but I don't see much LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #114

I attended a HS called ROBERT E LEE arely staircase Oct 2013 #29

The capital city of the country is named for a guy who owned slaves practically his whole life. WilliamPitt Oct 2013 #30

Voice of reason. Thank you. cordelia Oct 2013 #39

Not so much, TBH. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #88

Think about what you just said. Glassunion Oct 2013 #93

I honestly don't understand the anger here. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #95

I do not think my analogy falls apart. Glassunion Oct 2013 #116

The problem is, is that this isn't nearly as simplistic as you're making it out to be. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #117

Really? Glassunion Oct 2013 #120

Okay, but I feel some things should be clarified on my end. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #121

Cool. Glassunion Nov 2013 #126

Indeed. n/t Skip Intro Oct 2013 #47

He didn't care much for American Indians either Go Vols Oct 2013 #49

Besides complaining on the internet, Glassunion Oct 2013 #31

Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #40

I'm guessing you searched for Presidents' names -- the ones who owned slaves pnwmom Oct 2013 #42

On a technicality slavery was legal during the civil war. Glassunion Oct 2013 #58

The Confederate Generals were fighting for the right to secede pnwmom Oct 2013 #60

I'll repeat myself. Glassunion Oct 2013 #68

I agree about Hancock. But I don't agree about pnwmom Oct 2013 #69

How you qualify honor is puzzling to me. Glassunion Oct 2013 #73

George Washington was first President of the United States, pnwmom Oct 2013 #75

History. You should look it up. Glassunion Oct 2013 #76

Nothing Lee did was comparable to being President. Take a poll pnwmom Oct 2013 #77

Lee absolutely did something that is comparable to being president. Glassunion Oct 2013 #91

The reason Lee says he joined the confederacy makes no difference. kwassa Oct 2013 #81

You are almost 100% correct. Glassunion Oct 2013 #90

And Washington freed all of his, too. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #87

Washington did not free his slaves. Glassunion Oct 2013 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author Glassunion Oct 2013 #92

He is also buried there NoOneMan Oct 2013 #78

My hat tips to you, Glassunion! Sissyk Oct 2013 #79

++ Well done. Nowhere in America is immune to this hypocrisy. DirkGently Oct 2013 #86

Well, my son's school is named after the German immigrant who settled in the area ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #32

All of my direct male ancestors were Union men..... AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #96

My husband's middle name is Lee kickitup Oct 2013 #33

Well, there are four high schools named after Reagan in California, Fawke Em Oct 2013 #41

Do you think naming a school after him is comparable to naming pnwmom Oct 2013 #44

Ask the people in Honduras and El Salvador WilliamPitt Oct 2013 #56

That might be comparable if we named schools in Honduras and El Salvador pnwmom Oct 2013 #62

You dont think there are Hondurans in California? quakerboy Oct 2013 #98

I know that California is within the United States pnwmom Oct 2013 #99

And the confederate generals were popular quakerboy Oct 2013 #102

Yes they were -- because they led the war against the U.S. pnwmom Oct 2013 #103

Im not a southerner quakerboy Oct 2013 #105

What you described is the way it seems to me, too. pnwmom Oct 2013 #107

But you detract from your own point. quakerboy Oct 2013 #122

Two reasons. pnwmom Oct 2013 #123

And you believe what you read. Fawke Em Nov 2013 #125

Thank you for getting and making my point. Fawke Em Nov 2013 #124

I am from the south Munificence Oct 2013 #50

Research Harvard. flvegan Oct 2013 #54

Why give the North and West a pass? All this land was stolen form the Indians at gunpoint. Throd Oct 2013 #57

Most large California cities are named after Catholic saints. kwassa Oct 2013 #85

Yes, we really DO eat grits Aerows Oct 2013 #59

And no damn "pancakes" Glassunion Oct 2013 #74

Hotcakes, when I was growing up. moriah Oct 2013 #112

My husband loves grits marlakay Oct 2013 #97

I took a night class located at Jeb Stuart High School kwassa Oct 2013 #84

why lookie here backwoodsbob Oct 2013 #100

Sherman was a General fighting for the United States, pnwmom Oct 2013 #101

that's interesting backwoodsbob Oct 2013 #104

The Confederacy fired the first shots. They got the war that they wanted. pnwmom Oct 2013 #106

saddam was killing civilians too backwoodsbob Oct 2013 #109

Saddam never waged war on us. We went in there and it was wrong.n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #110

I don't know, none are named after 'em in Little Rock to my knowledge. moriah Oct 2013 #111

Grew in up suburban NTX myself..... AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #118

My Arkansas school was George Washington Carver High. Cannikin Oct 2013 #119