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1. How to spot a fake Obamacare horror story (peddled by rightwingers and trolls)
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 11:42 AM
Nov 2013
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/31/2868631/essential-guide-debunking-obamacare-cost-myth/

1. What does the old plan actually cover? Most of the policies in the existing individual health care market — which are currently issuing notices — offer low premiums, but also come with skimpy benefits and high out-of-pocket costs. These plans often have low limits for outpatient treatment, hospitalization or don’t offer any benefits for procedures like colonoscopy, chemotherapy or mental health treatment. Insurers market these policies to young and healthy people who don’t use their coverage — and never know the true extent of their benefits. (The market is also fairly mobile, with just 17 percent of individual subscribers purchasing the same plan for two years or longer.)

Under the Affordable Care Act, insurers cover 10 essential categories of benefits, offering far more comprehensive coverage than what’s available in most individual insurance plans.

2. Did this person go to the exchanges? Insurers informing policy holders that their health care costs will go up, often direct beneficiaries to their other brand products without telling them about competitive options and prices available through the exchanges. Cavallaro, for instance, got a quote from a broker, but did not explore the available options on her own.

Prices are lowest in areas with the most insurer competition. An analysis from the McKinsey Center for U.S. Health System Reform found that “new entrants into the market make up 26 percent of all insurers,” and “tend to price their plans lower than the median premiums in their market.” The average premium in the exchanges is 16 percent lower than previously projected.

3. Yes, the premium is low, but what are the co-pays and deductibles? This coverage often forces individuals who do use care to meet high deductibles — the amount you pay out-of-pocket before your insurance kicks in — pay high co-pays and co-insurance or limit the number of doctor visits that are allowed. Cavallaro, for instance, must meet a deductible of $5,000 a year and has an out-of-pocket cap of $8,500 a year. The plan covers just two doctors’ visits and each include a $40 co-pay.

As the LA Times’ Michael Hiltzik points out in California, Cavallaro could sign-up for a Silver level plan with a $2,000 deductible, maximum out-of-pocket cost of $6,350, pay $45 for a primary care visit and $65 for a specialty visit — “but all visits would be covered, not just two.”

The health law sets exchange enrollees’ maximum annual out-of-pocket costs at $6,350, and silver plans have deductibles ranging from $1,500 to $5,000.

4. Does this person qualify for subsidies? Americans between 100 and 400 percent of the federal poverty line ($46,000 for an individual, or about $78,000 for a family of three) qualify for tax credits under the law. Six of the 7 million individuals who are expected to sign up for insurance through the exchange will receive an average tax credit of $5,290 per year.

Cavallaro “qualifies her for a hefty federal premium subsidy,” Hiltzik reports and can purchase a silver plan for $333, $40 more than she’s paying now. A cheaper bronze plan would be in the $200s.



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How to spot a fake Obamacare horror story (peddled by rightwingers and trolls) geek tragedy Nov 2013 #1
This isn't Fox News; it's the NJ Star-Ledger brentspeak Nov 2013 #2
The reporter may not be "a liar", but he is inept and irresponsible Tanuki Nov 2013 #5
He probably meant his deductable, not his copay brentspeak Nov 2013 #8
Yet here you are peddling it as proof that Republicans are right about the ACA. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #10
Is the word "Republicans" in my OP? brentspeak Nov 2013 #21
plenty of people dennis4868 Nov 2013 #7
Exactly wryter2000 Nov 2013 #11
$300 with ZERO copays and ZERO deductible. At 43 years old. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #12
What about the concept of choice? Low cost and high deductibles is a good fit for some people. badtoworse Nov 2013 #3
such plans are available to those under 30 and those geek tragedy Nov 2013 #14
I'm not sold that ACA was a good idea - we'll just have to see how this plays out badtoworse Nov 2013 #15
If you believe misleading press reports that omit key information geek tragedy Nov 2013 #17
It's common on DU to decide whether a story is true based solely on who reported it. badtoworse Nov 2013 #18
The discussion is of individual market plans, which constiute 6% of all policy holders. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #20
Nailed it...nt SidDithers Nov 2013 #4
The article appears to respond to those requirements leftstreet Nov 2013 #6
Neither example describes what's covered. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #9
coverage isn't described... they were paying ~300 with zero deducitbles uponit7771 Nov 2013 #19
That last paragraph contains an obvious error, or lie. subterranean Nov 2013 #13
Slow news day. JaneyVee Nov 2013 #16
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