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heaven05

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Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:48 AM

Nov 2013

I couldn't agree more. More 'bluedogs' to work against progressives in our Party. Stay where you are, reform your own fucked up party of liars, extremists, racists and cheat.

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Before we jump for joy that moderate Republicans are switching to the Dem Party... [View all] cui bono Nov 2013 OP

how many are actually switching? I'm not convinced that it's enough to make any cali Nov 2013 #1

Many others have said that davidpdx Nov 2013 #22

As far as I can see those republicans are coming from blue dog states, and it would be a major lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #2

We cannot prevail without them. That's the hard reality of it. randome Nov 2013 #3

Crist as Gov of Florida does nothing for our Congressional majority and you have to own Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #24

And you're talking about one case. randome Nov 2013 #29

Exactly. What is now a moderate Republican used to be middle/right Republican. cui bono Nov 2013 #43

But that's the excuse the Republicans used Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #31

I think the Democrats lost their moxie BECAUSE Republicans expanded so well. randome Nov 2013 #33

I'd rather tell them to fuck off. Chan790 Nov 2013 #38

Except for the last two, I agree with you. randome Nov 2013 #50

+1 nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #65

when a party represents a majority quaker bill Nov 2013 #4

I know what you mean. postulater Nov 2013 #5

Exactly. treestar Nov 2013 #11

Here is your 'Moderate' Charlie Crist on Palin's superiority to Obama. Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #25

Short term thinking DireStrike Nov 2013 #21

Chicken or egg? quaker bill Nov 2013 #56

Products of the System...of the Behemoth required to respond to 12 or 13 million voters. Yes. libdem4life Nov 2013 #83

Well said. Captain Stern Nov 2013 #39

I'd rather they stay and pull their own party away from the edge than pull ours more to the right. Scuba Nov 2013 #6

that graphic if true, would only prove there are no voters over there treestar Nov 2013 #12

The graphic represents our elected officials, not the voters. Scuba Nov 2013 #13

You win the day for illogical statements. treestar Nov 2013 #14

The voters, who were offered a choice betwee a right-winger, and a far-right-winger. Scuba Nov 2013 #16

How did that choice come about? treestar Nov 2013 #17

C'mon, you're not really that naive, are you? Scuba Nov 2013 #18

If not naive, I'd hate to think of the alternative. nm rhett o rick Nov 2013 #54

Do you not think voters in the primaries treestar Nov 2013 #58

stop, just stop. lol BootinUp Nov 2013 #82

in serious conversations with the serious people who write serious checks... nashville_brook Nov 2013 #28

So whose fault is that? treestar Nov 2013 #59

You're ignoring the known reality among political scientists... Chan790 Nov 2013 #41

Yes, and I would add to that that as the Dem party's values get more centrist cui bono Nov 2013 #42

Or that the voters chose was they did? treestar Nov 2013 #60

You are wrong on this. I have to guess your point because you choose to rhett o rick Nov 2013 #53

You are making my brain hurt BootinUp Nov 2013 #77

+ a zillion Tents can be TOO big. truebluegreen Nov 2013 #36

^^^^this^^^^ L0oniX Nov 2013 #80

Don't worry RandiFan1290 Nov 2013 #7

Not, they will be a tiny minority treestar Nov 2013 #15

If they will walk across the aisle now and give DEMs a majority in the House, then good. SDjack Nov 2013 #8

It's Part Of Their Plan....... global1 Nov 2013 #9

I would say they've already done that Oilwellian Nov 2013 #27

I don't think the repubs planned it. I think they lost control of the baggers. CrispyQ Nov 2013 #87

Never trust these switchers until they've developed a progressive track record. Period. ancianita Nov 2013 #10

That was my thought too. zeemike Nov 2013 #19

And we're already way to close to that scenario in a presidential race for my comfort. n/t cui bono Nov 2013 #44

Where have you been? TBF Nov 2013 #20

+1. jsr Nov 2013 #35

Hell, Obama is barely a Democrat! I never said he was progressive. cui bono Nov 2013 #46

per OP heaven05 Nov 2013 #23

Until there is some mechanism in place... Blanks Nov 2013 #26

After the (R)s fall apart the (D)s will split too. Motown_Johnny Nov 2013 #30

Why the two party system sucks. wildeyed Nov 2013 #32

Yeah and since the Romney funders are backing dems against the teabaggers they will mucifer Nov 2013 #34

Well, we can have a majority in Congress (by way of a 50-state strategy) Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2013 #37

The first thing many of them do is try to get the Dem party to be more like the republican party. Zorra Nov 2013 #40

You're right, our massive majority in the House means we should stop reject geek tragedy Nov 2013 #45

You had me at "you're right". cui bono Nov 2013 #47

So it's about 'winning' but not about issues them? Here's what we will do sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #67

What you overlook is that they are politicians and will move left after geek tragedy Nov 2013 #68

Oh please, now I trust them even less, if that is true. Anyone sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #69

I trust politicians to behave like politicians. Start from there and you'll predict geek tragedy Nov 2013 #70

I expect Politicians to be ethical and moral. Sorry you sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #71

Politicians get people to vote for them. It's what they do for a living. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #72

This IS a majority left/liberal country. I am not going to continue to sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #73

If this was a majority liberal country, you'd have 40-50% saying Obama is not liberal geek tragedy Nov 2013 #74

Um, this is NOT a country that voted for Bush in 2004! sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #75

Where exactly? IronLionZion Nov 2013 #48

In general. It just seems like every day there's another Republican switching because of the crazies cui bono Nov 2013 #49

yup gopiscrap Nov 2013 #51

just plain stupid to say this beachbum bob Nov 2013 #52

I'll take a Progressive Democrat over any Republican, moderate or sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #66

Thank you. nt dflprincess Nov 2013 #55

No kidding DJ13 Nov 2013 #57

i want enough to switch to take the speakers gavel away from Boehner scheming daemons Nov 2013 #61

They should stay in their own party and try to reign in the extremists. sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #62

Yep. Especially since we still have a ton of leftover Bush appointees in various positions cui bono Nov 2013 #64

Yeah, we don't need them brush Nov 2013 #63

Another way to look at it BootinUp Nov 2013 #76

What do you mean it going to? ,,,,,, INdemo Nov 2013 #78

Farther to the right - get a move on. jwirr Nov 2013 #79

It's a good switch to make. gulliver Nov 2013 #81

How many R to D converts could realistically be replaced with an acceptably progressive "real" D? brooklynite Nov 2013 #84

I only vote for progressives. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #85

Better to have them inside the tent, pissing out, than outside the tent, pissing in. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #86