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In reply to the discussion: Opinions please [View all]Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)Two days ago, I put Omaha Steve on full ignore for demanding that the DU gang get together and torment a newbie who dared to disagree with him. I posted that I would not join the demand to grab the pitchforks and torches and chase the Carpetbagger out of town. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3961026
While we are generally speaking, a progressive site, many of the Democrats who serve in Congress come from very conservative districts. That reality is that they must be at least reluctant on abortion if not outright opposed to abortion. As an example, John Barrow, Democrat from the 12th District of Georgia, voted to restrict the interstate transport of a minor to get an abortion.
Why would he do that if he was a Democrat? Well, he understood that he had to vote some ways to get re-elected, and before you start hopping up and down denouncing such things remember it was the Blue Dogs we lost in 2010 that led to the end of the first (hopefully) period of Speaker Pelosi holding the gavel. We may get that back, but we won't without the blue dogs taking those more conservative districts away from the fucking Rethugs.
But on so many issues around here it rapidly becomes fuck the elections we're going for party purity. Damn the majority and damn the chances to make a difference in this country, we need anyone who dares to call themselves a Democrat to be fully in line for several issues even if such a position is the kiss of death in their districts. We don't give a damn, fuck it, the Rethugs are done so lets self destruct right alongside.
So because you think that the Overwhelming majority here on one web board feel some way, no one else should be allowed to express any opinion to the contrary. Well, when the Snowden/NSA stories started, a vast majority felt that it was all lies. Should we have banned all those who spoke up in defense of learning the truth? After that, let's ban those who haven't expressed the proper adoration of the ACA. Then we can ban all those who think that foreign cars built in the US are American Made. Then we can ban anyone who doesn't support a complete and total ban on guns. Then you and a dozen of your friends can sit around and chat because there won't be anyone left.
The purpose of this site is the discuss the issues, but the primary purpose is to get information into the hands of the people who can influence neighbors and co-workers to vote Democrat.
Now you would have us turn our backs on the blue dogs who we desperately need to keep in office, and we need more of them to get the majority back in the house. Because a far left Liberal will not get elected to the Georgia 12th. We lost in South Carolina to a man who had to resign the Governorship because of misappropriations of monies, a decade long affair, and lying about his whereabouts. If we want that seat, we are going to have to run slightly less conservative people under the Democratic Party flag. That may mean the candidate has to be opposed to Abortions. BUT isn't it more important to win the bloody seats we need to get the fucking majority? Because we can't do a fucking thing about any of these issues if we don't win the god damned elections.
But like I did with the last one who demanded the townsfolk run the heretic out of the village, I am going to put you on full ignore. Because anyone that invested in party purity is not going to help us win in 2014, and I think we have enough obstacles to taking the House back that the last thing I need in my life is the Party Purity Patrol calling on the majority to shun anyone who doesn't believe as strongly on an issue as they do. If we did that, then those who defend the NSA would be run out now, assuming any of us who opposed the NSA before survived that round of purges.
Sometimes people don't agree with you. I may believe a woman's right to choose is important, but I also think that others views may be equally valid to them. The first amendment is for freedom of speech, and the only speech we are supposed to censor here is Rethugnik talking points. When we turn on Democrats, I think we have forgotten the purpose of this site. ELECTING DEMOCRATS.