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haele

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54. Most of the push is from the religious right. Women will be pushed into marriage for relevance.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:55 PM
Nov 2013

It's partially economic and mostly political. You can't rule over a "kingdom" successfully if you have a high number of recognized citizens that aren't effectively employed.

If women are pretty much relegated back to the "home front" because of risks inherent in their reproductive system for up to half their adult life, their rights as citizens can be easily be legally linked to some form of family or spousal patronage that would be required to support them while they were bearing and raising children.

Historically, "rulers" that oversaw that sort of legal status for women didn't feel the need to worry about more than half their population - only needed to worry about the half that legally "counted". It's an easy political out - much easier to focus on material gains for a relatively few men to "support their families" instead of social gains - income equality, or education, or health and environmental standards - that way.

Priest-Kings and other hierarchal based organizations are especially prone to taking the easy, short-term political options - and the fewer legal citizens who can call them out, the better. So relegating women to second-class dependent status along with children, disabled, and elderly - and potentially bringing back indentured servitude/prison slavery to "take care" of any excess male population - is the most efficient way for a Priest-King to gain and retain power.

Haele

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kick. why do we stick our heads in the sand on this vital issue? cali Nov 2013 #1
Maybe because it feels like we are powerless on this issue? Or this specific aspect of it? el_bryanto Nov 2013 #2
We discuss issues where we are purportedly powerless all the time here. cali Nov 2013 #3
I can't deny that. I don't know then. el_bryanto Nov 2013 #9
I think it may be because people can conceptualize what it would mean cali Nov 2013 #12
And in Texas, they're also losing the right to vote. ananda Nov 2013 #4
what's going on with women and the vote in your state? cali Nov 2013 #6
I don't know if that's a rhetorical question of if you're really asking. CrispyQ Nov 2013 #28
I was really asking. thanks. cali Nov 2013 #30
It's true in every state that has toughened the voter ID laws csziggy Nov 2013 #35
rust never sleeps. spanone Nov 2013 #5
and your point is? cali Nov 2013 #7
they never quit. they are chipping away night and day at women's rights. spanone Nov 2013 #11
got it. and they were strategic about how to damage abortion rights cali Nov 2013 #13
k&r Starry Messenger Nov 2013 #8
It is scary how fast we are regressing. K&R demmiblue Nov 2013 #10
I see a link to lots of stories but the one you copy and paste so judiciously here. sybylla Nov 2013 #14
I'm confused. I linked to the stories I pasted portions of. cali Nov 2013 #15
K&R Brickbat Nov 2013 #16
In my opinion... ohheckyeah Nov 2013 #19
I was at a party in summer of 2012. CrispyQ Nov 2013 #34
Wow - ohheckyeah Nov 2013 #41
death sentences, forced poverty, pain and suffering BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #17
I know. cali Nov 2013 #21
REALLY REALLY POOR 2010 Campaigning, Howard Dean REALLY needs to run operations at DNC, whatever... uponit7771 Nov 2013 #18
This stuff is just trivial compared to website problems. bullwinkle428 Nov 2013 #20
k and r--thank you for this very depressing, unsurprising post. the hatred for, and the war on, niyad Nov 2013 #22
I can't help but think that a lot of millennials are in for one hell of a rude awakening. cali Nov 2013 #25
+1 >this is about the oppression of the poor and lower middle class. lunasun Nov 2013 #37
I cannot believe this either... whttevrr Nov 2013 #48
40 years ago, we had no idea the battle would be harder than ever in the TWENTY-FIRST century. niyad Nov 2013 #50
I hope voter turnout changes this. whttevrr Nov 2013 #51
not soon enough to do any good for all the women who are being harmed right now. niyad Nov 2013 #52
I know... whttevrr Nov 2013 #53
Great OP cali. Thanks for this. Bookmarking nt riderinthestorm Nov 2013 #23
thank you rider. I'm glad to see this isn't sinking. cali Nov 2013 #27
When a 600-mile drive isn't considered an undue burden... n/t Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #24
no shit. undue burden has become utterly meaningless. cali Nov 2013 #26
A large part of this is abortion will always be legal....for wealthy women. jeff47 Nov 2013 #29
so true. and abortion won't become illegal in all states cali Nov 2013 #32
Oh so so true &even many in the middle class will try and put it all on a credit card & do the same lunasun Nov 2013 #40
* ronnie624 Nov 2013 #44
30 year's ago I had a Planned Parenthood volunteer leftyladyfrommo Nov 2013 #31
I do not understand how this is continuing... whttevrr Nov 2013 #33
If a state criminalizes abortion, can a you go to another state where it is legal for the procedure? rockbluff botanist Nov 2013 #36
perhaps. one would have to be able to afford it. Many women cannot cali Nov 2013 #38
ohio tried that a few years ago, if my memory serves niyad Nov 2013 #47
You used to be able to. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2013 #39
Depends on how they made it illegal. jeff47 Nov 2013 #42
For being the party of christx30 Nov 2013 #43
K & R historylovr Nov 2013 #45
cali, I agree with your above posts kiva Nov 2013 #46
Most of the push is from the religious right. Women will be pushed into marriage for relevance. haele Nov 2013 #54
So sick of this shit. The war on women continues. nt DLevine Nov 2013 #49
this is a back door way around the Roe vs Wade ruling gopiscrap Nov 2013 #55
K&R Fumesucker Nov 2013 #56
This is about controlling people through fear. whttevrr Nov 2013 #57
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