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Zavulon

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46. Leaving aside your comparison of

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 10:32 PM

Nov 2013

apples and oranges, are you saying you don't think President Obama saw this coming? You're saying that he AND his advisors were taken completely by surprise here? Every message board, restaurant and bar in America was full of people who saw it coming, and you truly believe that someone as bright as the president and the people he chose as his advisors were caught completely unaware?

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The President lied... [View all] kentuck Nov 2013 OP

The President isn't running for re-election. Laelth Nov 2013 #1

obamacare frog64 Nov 2013 #17

Seriously? That's the depth of your political consideration? Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #18

Yep. Laelth Nov 2013 #39

I think that ultimately this will show how worthless those cheap insurance policies were for the CTyankee Nov 2013 #2

In effect, this is the first regulations on insurance companies ever. kentuck Nov 2013 #4

Yes, that's why nearly every state has a insurance commission. GeorgeGist Nov 2013 #5

And why they have been exempt from anti-trust laws... kentuck Nov 2013 #8

They aren't exempt. Heretofore its been illegal to sell policies across state lines. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #15

"Why Are Insurers Exempt From Antitrust Laws?" kentuck Nov 2013 #19

I don't think we're that far apart on our respective statements Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #22

A snip from your link: kentuck Nov 2013 #23

Yeah, that sort of thinking/excuse-making is in vogue at the moment Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #26

The President never said they could keep their same plan at the same price. kentuck Nov 2013 #30

I don't know where you live, but in Wisconsin, the Commission is a tool of for-profit insurance. Scuba Nov 2013 #11

"eternal vigilance" as Jefferson said...that is the price of liberty... CTyankee Nov 2013 #12

It can't be worse secondvariety Nov 2013 #20

I am now even more convinced that the ACA will lead to universal health care in the style of many CTyankee Nov 2013 #7

I think you are right davidpdx Nov 2013 #25

I stopped paying for medical insurance in 2002 BECAUSE I could see it was worthless. bemildred Nov 2013 #10

Your point is well made. Republicans don't care about the dead. IdaBriggs Nov 2013 #3

This is so dumb treestar Nov 2013 #6

^^^This!^^^ eom BlueCaliDem Nov 2013 #35

I have been trying to figure this out ever since the 'shit hit the fan,' so to speak. pangaia Nov 2013 #36

He's a politician treestar Nov 2013 #47

Bill Maher said last night riverbendviewgal Nov 2013 #9

Republicans making hay on a lie of their own making? Skidmore Nov 2013 #13

The comparative statement was supposed to be ridiculous on its face. kentuck Nov 2013 #14

Maybe DU needs a satire icon. Nine Nov 2013 #21

A politician? Lying? Zeke L Brimstone Nov 2013 #16

welcome to DU gopiscrap Nov 2013 #40

Thanks much :-) Zeke L Brimstone Nov 2013 #43

you're welcome hope we can learn for each other gopiscrap Nov 2013 #44

I think some of your wording is misleading however. Nine Nov 2013 #24

I think you are correct about the grandfathered plans but.... kentuck Nov 2013 #28

Ah, I see. Nine Nov 2013 #34

He didn't lie. The person insured can still keep the same insurance B Calm Nov 2013 #27

Yes, the President did not say they could keep the same plan at the same price. kentuck Nov 2013 #29

That's just it. Turbineguy Nov 2013 #31

Best summary I have seen underpants Nov 2013 #32

Most of those cheap plans people wanted to keep were shit even before ACA. alarimer Nov 2013 #33

What a dirty rotten President. He lied and now the Insurance-Lambs are suffering. BlueJazz Nov 2013 #37

Oh man...There's a difference between lying and just being wrong /nt demwing Nov 2013 #38

fucking pukes and their propagandist megamedia..... BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #41

Well the private sector is efficient like that IronLionZion Nov 2013 #42

I do not think he lied about that Samantha Nov 2013 #45

Leaving aside your comparison of Zavulon Nov 2013 #46