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Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts) Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:25 AM Nov 2013

"#!$%#@*^$% moderates!" Column in USA Today (Sept 2013) [View all]

This woman has some good thoughts on why it might be the saner course to get back toward moderation and compromise to actually move this country forward.

In my business — psychology — unyielding, strident insistence on extreme positions brings failure in marriage, career and business. Stubbornness about "principles" with no effort to understand and work with other views causes isolation and feuds, in every area of life.

And yet when it comes to politics, the staunch and unbending are yelling. The right sneers that fellow GOP-ers are "RINOs" (Republicans in Name Only); the left bashes "moderate Democrats" in favor of a "good, progressive, populist message," to quote Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/09/12/moderates-democrats-republicans-politics-column/2806517/

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"#!$%#@*^$% moderates!" Column in USA Today (Sept 2013) [View all] Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 OP

#!$%#@*^$% the 1% delrem Nov 2013 #1

no comment on the commentary I linked? Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #2

#!$%#@*^$% the 1%, and the hacks that promote that the status quo is "moderate". OK? delrem Nov 2013 #3

I don't think that was what the column was saying Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #4

Well, I don't like the 100% flexible word "moderate", which stands for whatever status quo. delrem Nov 2013 #5

why would you say I don't want change? That's ludicrous! Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #6

Because you 100% consistently use the term 'moderate' to defend the status quo. delrem Nov 2013 #7

That's flat out not the case. Look for links where I said it. Here's the deal Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #9

bwahahaha. more like you have a fit at so much as a HINT of criticism of any kind cali Nov 2013 #11

Well, for it being "flat out not the case" you sure are a case study of the opposite. delrem Nov 2013 #12

I think she's full of crap?! Chan790 Nov 2013 #17

that's not really what moderates are. Most have pretty clear position on taxes, immigration Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #20

Diana Medved: NOT A MODERATE, preaching false equivalency cali Nov 2013 #22

We've all heard those positions from many of the "moderates" here of late. Chan790 Nov 2013 #23

too often "moderates" is a rallying cry to destroy liberals. that's what's wrong with it. cali Nov 2013 #32

So which group do you think we should compromise with? JoeyT Nov 2013 #8

we should work with moderate Republicans on immigration reform Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #10

name those moderate repubs cali Nov 2013 #13

Mccain and Graham come to mind for immigration though I loathe much of their policy mindset. Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #15

No. Chan790 Nov 2013 #18

and the author of the piece that the op has so lovingly posted cali Nov 2013 #25

Yeah...no, fuck that. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #14

what does that even mean? Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #16

I think moderation is a horrible concept. n/t Chan790 Nov 2013 #19

wow. what a steaming pile that article is cali Nov 2013 #21

hey, gentle thread readers: This is a hit piece on dems using false equvialency cali Nov 2013 #24

I'm far to the left on the spectrum, but Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #26

Pretzel, for you: More about the rightwinger you so deeply agree with: cali Nov 2013 #27

Much of Congress is unable to do that Warpy Nov 2013 #28

The author absolutely implies Tom Harkin is an extremist cali Nov 2013 #29

Hosted Rush Lindbaum show Ichingcarpenter Nov 2013 #30

she's a repulsive creature as well cali Nov 2013 #31

Moderate Republicans Ichingcarpenter Nov 2013 #35

taking advice from a right wing piggy who hates the poor, homeless and LGBT folks cali Nov 2013 #33

thanks for the kick. Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #34

People fool themselves with this label kydo Nov 2013 #36

Looks like you are a person of our times Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #37

No I didn't say that kydo Nov 2013 #40

Stubbornness in politics is a virtue. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #38

"moderate" = spineless. 99Forever Nov 2013 #39

Does that go for the "extremists" who founded the country? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #41