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Jamaal510

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26. I'm far to the left on the spectrum, but

Reply to Pretzel_Warrior (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 03:07 AM

Nov 2013

I really don't know where this ludicrous notion came from that moderates and centrists are somehow "weak" and indecisive. Being a moderate or a centrist has zero to do with not having any principles or being stupid; it basically just means having a balanced mix of both liberal and conservative stances. I would argue that moderates are absolutely necessary for getting things done in D.C. because if both parties become polarized and move too far away from the center, then the only way that things will get done is with 1-party rule (where 1 party has the WH, control of the House, and a Senate supermajority), which is highly unlikely in such a mixed-bag country. The two parties are supposed to work together, and in the interests of Americans.

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"#!$%#@*^$% moderates!" Column in USA Today (Sept 2013) [View all] Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 OP

#!$%#@*^$% the 1% delrem Nov 2013 #1

no comment on the commentary I linked? Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #2

#!$%#@*^$% the 1%, and the hacks that promote that the status quo is "moderate". OK? delrem Nov 2013 #3

I don't think that was what the column was saying Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #4

Well, I don't like the 100% flexible word "moderate", which stands for whatever status quo. delrem Nov 2013 #5

why would you say I don't want change? That's ludicrous! Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #6

Because you 100% consistently use the term 'moderate' to defend the status quo. delrem Nov 2013 #7

That's flat out not the case. Look for links where I said it. Here's the deal Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #9

bwahahaha. more like you have a fit at so much as a HINT of criticism of any kind cali Nov 2013 #11

Well, for it being "flat out not the case" you sure are a case study of the opposite. delrem Nov 2013 #12

I think she's full of crap?! Chan790 Nov 2013 #17

that's not really what moderates are. Most have pretty clear position on taxes, immigration Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #20

Diana Medved: NOT A MODERATE, preaching false equivalency cali Nov 2013 #22

We've all heard those positions from many of the "moderates" here of late. Chan790 Nov 2013 #23

too often "moderates" is a rallying cry to destroy liberals. that's what's wrong with it. cali Nov 2013 #32

So which group do you think we should compromise with? JoeyT Nov 2013 #8

we should work with moderate Republicans on immigration reform Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #10

name those moderate repubs cali Nov 2013 #13

Mccain and Graham come to mind for immigration though I loathe much of their policy mindset. Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #15

No. Chan790 Nov 2013 #18

and the author of the piece that the op has so lovingly posted cali Nov 2013 #25

Yeah...no, fuck that. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #14

what does that even mean? Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #16

I think moderation is a horrible concept. n/t Chan790 Nov 2013 #19

wow. what a steaming pile that article is cali Nov 2013 #21

hey, gentle thread readers: This is a hit piece on dems using false equvialency cali Nov 2013 #24

I'm far to the left on the spectrum, but Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #26

Pretzel, for you: More about the rightwinger you so deeply agree with: cali Nov 2013 #27

Much of Congress is unable to do that Warpy Nov 2013 #28

The author absolutely implies Tom Harkin is an extremist cali Nov 2013 #29

Hosted Rush Lindbaum show Ichingcarpenter Nov 2013 #30

she's a repulsive creature as well cali Nov 2013 #31

Moderate Republicans Ichingcarpenter Nov 2013 #35

taking advice from a right wing piggy who hates the poor, homeless and LGBT folks cali Nov 2013 #33

thanks for the kick. Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #34

People fool themselves with this label kydo Nov 2013 #36

Looks like you are a person of our times Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #37

No I didn't say that kydo Nov 2013 #40

Stubbornness in politics is a virtue. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #38

"moderate" = spineless. 99Forever Nov 2013 #39

Does that go for the "extremists" who founded the country? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #41