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Luminous Animal

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93. Idiotic. If my friend gives me a bike and then someone subsequently steals that bike...

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Sun Nov 3, 2013, 03:31 AM

Nov 2013

they didn't steal from my friend, they stole from me.

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British Accuse David Miranda, Glenn Greenwald's Partner, Of 'Terrorism' [View all] Hissyspit Nov 2013 OP

I guess that's all they have left. nt bemildred Nov 2013 #1

They need more? nt Cryptoad Nov 2013 #24

Are they winning? nt bemildred Nov 2013 #25

They sure do if they accusing journalists of terror is all they've got. sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #56

Nobody could have anticipated that the state would expand the definition Warren Stupidity Nov 2013 #2

Heh. Hissyspit Nov 2013 #3

+1. jsr Nov 2013 #14

Shouldn't they lock up Blair and Cameron first? malaise Nov 2013 #4

And yet they didn't arrest him... ljm2002 Nov 2013 #5

You know, I've had criminal clients walk from their first interview thinking msanthrope Nov 2013 #11

That's a fair point... ljm2002 Nov 2013 #21

Carrying stolen documents procured from a person charged with espionage msanthrope Nov 2013 #27

Still seems a stretch to deem it "terrorism"... ljm2002 Nov 2013 #30

Blocking a pipeline or exposing animal mistreatment counts... dougolat Nov 2013 #43

Yes that about covers it. n/t ljm2002 Nov 2013 #47

I think you are focusing on what could be done with the documents...as opposed to msanthrope Nov 2013 #61

Uh, no... ljm2002 Nov 2013 #64

I'm not understanding your point. He msanthrope Nov 2013 #67

Was Snowden or Greenwald charged with espionage... ljm2002 Nov 2013 #70

Snowden was charged in June. I suspect Greenwald has been charged under seal. msanthrope Nov 2013 #73

My question was... ljm2002 Nov 2013 #83

How about the Guardian? Or the NY Times? Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #74

I think you extrapolate poorly. Miranda was carrying stolen documents through msanthrope Nov 2013 #79

Nope. The Guardian not only was in possession of these terrorist docs Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #84

The OP.posted that he had GCHQ docs. It helps if you read the OP. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #86

Which he got from the NSA. So no. He didn't take anything Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #89

That's a stunning bit of American exceptionalism there. Well done. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #90

Idiotic. If my friend gives me a bike and then someone subsequently steals that bike... Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #93

Um, no...it's more like, if my friend gives me an intelligence assessment and msanthrope Nov 2013 #96

That most certainly is NOT terrorism. antigone382 Nov 2013 #87

If they communicated about the trip Savannahmann Nov 2013 #76

Brazil has them under surveillance. The NSA knew the trip was upcoming... msanthrope Nov 2013 #77

They didn't arrest him precisely BECAUSE they defer to the press. randome Nov 2013 #29

Really? ljm2002 Nov 2013 #31

I agree the word 'terrorism' is quite a stretch. randome Nov 2013 #36

And I agree they are too damned good... ljm2002 Nov 2013 #45

You have to keep something in mind, though. randome Nov 2013 #51

Yes all of that is true... ljm2002 Nov 2013 #53

It may soon reach the point where all of us have secure communications. randome Nov 2013 #85

Thanks... ljm2002 Nov 2013 #88

But a bug on him and follow him around to collect more data? Rex Nov 2013 #62

Somehow I don't think that's what happened. n/t ljm2002 Nov 2013 #65

Just a possibility. Rex Nov 2013 #66

If you're breathing, you're a terrorist. Of course.. truth2power Nov 2013 #6

Is there another link? Moe Shinola Nov 2013 #7

The link below works Tx4obama Nov 2013 #81

i guess it was only a matter of time before nashville_brook Nov 2013 #8

Your link is broken. Also...Miranda was stupid enough to go through Britian with stolen msanthrope Nov 2013 #9

And that makes it terrorism? Hissyspit Nov 2013 #10

Well, flying through Britian whilst in possession of materials stolen from GCHQ is msanthrope Nov 2013 #18

Jeez. Hissyspit Nov 2013 #22

It may be a stretch but look at it objectively. randome Nov 2013 #38

I have absolutely no problem looking at anything objectively Hissyspit Nov 2013 #57

But that isn't the point, is it? JDPriestly Nov 2013 #28

^^ This ^^ and they're using Miranda tblue Nov 2013 #41

I agree, JDPriestly. n/t Uncle Joe Nov 2013 #58

Well, yes. It is about intimidation. What flabbergasts me is the utter stupidity of msanthrope Nov 2013 #60

You mean they had the goods on him and let him walk? zeemike Nov 2013 #35

I haven't declared anyone guilty of anything. And the police selectively enforce the law msanthrope Nov 2013 #59

"with stolen GCHQ documents?" zeemike Nov 2013 #68

Miranda isn't the thief though. He's the lowest rung on the ladder. msanthrope Nov 2013 #71

Well that explains why banksters don't go to jail zeemike Nov 2013 #78

Where have you been? But don't make the mistake of thinking Snowden and Greenwald msanthrope Nov 2013 #80

Oh I have been as low as you go in society zeemike Nov 2013 #82

This is the behavior of fascism. woo me with science Nov 2013 #12

This disturbs me more than some of the more egregious Mojorabbit Nov 2013 #17

it's to garner public resentment towards the man fascisthunter Nov 2013 #20

Whereby the Brits prove they are as unhinged @ Snowden and Greenwald as the US riderinthestorm Nov 2013 #13

The only one who used that word was Greenwald. stonecutter357 Nov 2013 #15

Um, what? Hissyspit Nov 2013 #16

flipping ideological authoritarian fanatics fascisthunter Nov 2013 #19

Terrorism? lol LittleBlue Nov 2013 #23

'disclosure...influence a government...promoting political cause' leftstreet Nov 2013 #26

The Brits have lost all subtlety. QuestForSense Nov 2013 #32

actually all are "lap-dogs" of the global private central banking network, spawned from The City Snowfield Nov 2013 #42

I do see a pattern. QuestForSense Nov 2013 #52

Really important addition to this story! nt riderinthestorm Nov 2013 #95

British and terrorism and false accusations go back PatrynXX Nov 2013 #33

I guess they don't have to read him his Miranda rights. L0oniX Nov 2013 #34

Be very afraid. The Empire strikes back. Jack Rabbit Nov 2013 #37

Al Qaeda Terrorists Pass US Special Forces, CIA Agents on Way to Syria Snowfield Nov 2013 #39

My mind can barely deal with these facts at a distance, let alone in reality. This should be an OP. libdem4life Nov 2013 #44

++ nt dougolat Nov 2013 #49

This is excellent work. Jawdropping nt riderinthestorm Nov 2013 #94

Citizens - The Enemy Of Every State cantbeserious Nov 2013 #40

England does know that Brazil was just a movie, right? DJ13 Nov 2013 #46

The corrected version of "Ports Circulation Sheet" lofty1 Nov 2013 #48

Waiting for "Journalistic Terrorism" to be DirkGently Nov 2013 #50

and yet the poodle still walks free.... mike_c Nov 2013 #54

So does Cheney and his lackey Dubya. Rex Nov 2013 #63

K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #55

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #69

Oh good god. Hissyspit Nov 2013 #72

Crazy. Having possession of info that may influence a Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #75

How did "terrorism" come to have nothing to do with "terror"? Nt Bonobo Nov 2013 #91

That's a very important point that has seems to have been overlooked. Quantess Nov 2013 #92