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kydo

(2,679 posts)
36. People fool themselves with this label
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:05 AM
Nov 2013

Yes there is a middle but most people are not in it.

In the late 1980's I used to say I was a moderate that leans left. And in a way that was true, I was young and didn't have a voting record. And I wanted to think I would be open to voting for the best person regardless of party.

By the late 1990's I still claimed to be a moderate that leaned left. But that was just a lie I told myself. Because by then I now had a voting record, and to be a moderate I'd have had to of voted re pub at some point, and I never have voted for a repub. It dawned on me in 1999 I was liberal. I said noooooo! But then went wait, its cool to a liberal.

And then for about 2 years (2000-2002), most of the times it depended on my mood and who I am talking to when politics come up on whether I said liberal or moderate. That was the lie I told others. If I didn't want a fight and I was talking to repubs that I liked I'd say I was a moderate.

But by 2002 I couldn't carry the lie any more, so since then when asked I tell people I am a bleeding heart liberal, and I don't give a flip what anyone thinks about it. It's my political preference and I have embraced it, finally.

When most people claim to be a moderate they are full of crap. When people talk about how there needs to be more moderates in politics they too are full of crap.

When people say if only there were more moderate republicans, I LOL and and tell them to get out of the fantasy world because there are NO moderate republicans. If they ever existed they died out a long time ago.

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#!$%#@*^$% the 1% delrem Nov 2013 #1
no comment on the commentary I linked? Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #2
#!$%#@*^$% the 1%, and the hacks that promote that the status quo is "moderate". OK? delrem Nov 2013 #3
I don't think that was what the column was saying Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #4
Well, I don't like the 100% flexible word "moderate", which stands for whatever status quo. delrem Nov 2013 #5
why would you say I don't want change? That's ludicrous! Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #6
Because you 100% consistently use the term 'moderate' to defend the status quo. delrem Nov 2013 #7
That's flat out not the case. Look for links where I said it. Here's the deal Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #9
bwahahaha. more like you have a fit at so much as a HINT of criticism of any kind cali Nov 2013 #11
Well, for it being "flat out not the case" you sure are a case study of the opposite. delrem Nov 2013 #12
I think she's full of crap?! Chan790 Nov 2013 #17
that's not really what moderates are. Most have pretty clear position on taxes, immigration Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #20
Diana Medved: NOT A MODERATE, preaching false equivalency cali Nov 2013 #22
We've all heard those positions from many of the "moderates" here of late. Chan790 Nov 2013 #23
too often "moderates" is a rallying cry to destroy liberals. that's what's wrong with it. cali Nov 2013 #32
So which group do you think we should compromise with? JoeyT Nov 2013 #8
we should work with moderate Republicans on immigration reform Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #10
name those moderate repubs cali Nov 2013 #13
Mccain and Graham come to mind for immigration though I loathe much of their policy mindset. Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #15
No. Chan790 Nov 2013 #18
and the author of the piece that the op has so lovingly posted cali Nov 2013 #25
Yeah...no, fuck that. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #14
what does that even mean? Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #16
I think moderation is a horrible concept. n/t Chan790 Nov 2013 #19
wow. what a steaming pile that article is cali Nov 2013 #21
hey, gentle thread readers: This is a hit piece on dems using false equvialency cali Nov 2013 #24
I'm far to the left on the spectrum, but Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #26
Pretzel, for you: More about the rightwinger you so deeply agree with: cali Nov 2013 #27
Much of Congress is unable to do that Warpy Nov 2013 #28
The author absolutely implies Tom Harkin is an extremist cali Nov 2013 #29
Hosted Rush Lindbaum show Ichingcarpenter Nov 2013 #30
she's a repulsive creature as well cali Nov 2013 #31
Moderate Republicans Ichingcarpenter Nov 2013 #35
taking advice from a right wing piggy who hates the poor, homeless and LGBT folks cali Nov 2013 #33
thanks for the kick. Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #34
People fool themselves with this label kydo Nov 2013 #36
Looks like you are a person of our times Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #37
No I didn't say that kydo Nov 2013 #40
Stubbornness in politics is a virtue. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #38
"moderate" = spineless. 99Forever Nov 2013 #39
Does that go for the "extremists" who founded the country? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #41
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