Before we jump for joy that moderate Republicans are switching to the Dem Party...

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73. This IS a majority left/liberal country. I am not going to continue to

argue for the election of Progressive Democrats rather than Republicans here on DU. I can't believe I'm actually having this discussion here. I've had it, with the same talking point 'this is not a left/liberal' country eg, with republicans, but never expected to have it on a Dem forum.

My approach hasn't been tried yet, due to all the Third Wayers who weaseled their way into the party.

But the young and independent vote and the Progressive Dem vote, sees things very differently now that we have had a chance to see how these OLD policies you are pushing, have worked.

We Progressives are left/liberals who ended up supporting Third Way candidates under the illusion that 'winning' would get us what we wanted. So you count US in that 'we are not a left leaning country' lie. It IS. In every poll on the issues the US is Overwhelmingly a 'left/liberal' country. Half the country doesn't vote because the Right has taken over the electoral system, and that suits the PTBs just fine because when a majority of the country DOES vote, Progressive Candidates or those who pretend to be, win.

I don't support Republicans. Nor do I believe in the old cynical view that we can't win without filling OUR Party with them. Sorry, that old tactic isn't going to work and if this is what happens in the next election, we will have another 2010. Maybe that's the goal of these tactics, to help Republicans win by turning away Independents and young people.