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Douglas Carpenter

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28. if one wants to sustain current levels of electrical usage - solar and wind would not be enough

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:58 AM

Nov 2013

if you add geothermal and other mechanisms - you still on practical grounds fall short - I suppose if one wants to sustain anything anywhere near current levels of electrical usage - nuclear is probably about the only option

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Experts Say Nuclear Power May Be Our Only Hope [View all] FarCenter Nov 2013 OP

Something like a LFTR design? dairydog91 Nov 2013 #1

international Thorium Energy Conference, ThEC13, at CERN, in Geneva Switzerland, October 27 to 31 FarCenter Nov 2013 #2

A fukushima in every garage! Warren Stupidity Nov 2013 #3

I don't think that they are proposing obsolete and dangerous American designs. FarCenter Nov 2013 #4

Proliferation of nuclear power generation on the scale required Warren Stupidity Nov 2013 #6

Not using modern designs it won't. gcomeau Nov 2013 #9

The old designs were "safe" when they were deployed too. Warren Stupidity Nov 2013 #16

"...safer nuclear power..." 99Forever Nov 2013 #5

Nuke power can be designed to be safe, don't use materials that can be weapons grade or close uponit7771 Nov 2013 #7

Nuclear will always involve creating a mess mining for it, processing it, using it for fuel. Plus- KittyWampus Nov 2013 #12

The older way of processing materials for nukes will. Thorium is abundant uponit7771 Nov 2013 #15

Unless Thorium falls from the sky everywhere, it's a waste and messy. KittyWampus Nov 2013 #38

Nuclear Power Generation Is Not Safe. It Cannot Be Made to Be Safe. MineralMan Nov 2013 #8

You are incorrect. gcomeau Nov 2013 #10

We disagree, it seems. MineralMan Nov 2013 #11

Old nuke energy I agree, new nuke energy I disagree... Cars designed 40 years ago are less safe uponit7771 Nov 2013 #13

I disagree. One problem lies in the commercial nature of MineralMan Nov 2013 #14

Radiation during the generation of course is dangers but can be contained now vs before uponit7771 Nov 2013 #19

Any and all systems, both human and nature made, will fail eventually seveneyes Nov 2013 #20

That is true enough. Solar, hydro, and wind power MineralMan Nov 2013 #23

All courses of action to continue human civilization carry risk. FarCenter Nov 2013 #17

Indeed. Where we can see and measure the risks in advance, however, MineralMan Nov 2013 #22

The scientists in the OP opine that the risks of nuclear are less than climate change without it FarCenter Nov 2013 #24

Nuclear power kicks ass, we need more, and about 100 billion a year snooper2 Nov 2013 #29

Yah, OK, then. MineralMan Nov 2013 #32

Never a single blip in any of these articles IDemo Nov 2013 #18

Even if the 3 billion in developed nations back off, there are another 4 to 6 billion using more FarCenter Nov 2013 #21

I wasn't speaking of petroleum resources, at least not exclusively IDemo Nov 2013 #27

Add to that the minerals and material that would go into alternative energy FarCenter Nov 2013 #40

Then we need to rethink how much power we need and change our lifestyles BECAUSE: Tikki Nov 2013 #25

I tend to agree. k&r n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #26

if one wants to sustain current levels of electrical usage - solar and wind would not be enough Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #28

Or "electrical" usage? IDemo Nov 2013 #30

that was the spell checker fucking with me Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #31

If the human race really put a Manhattan Project scale effort into renewables daleo Nov 2013 #33

Up fast enough? RobertEarl Nov 2013 #34

Then we are truly fucked. nt mother earth Nov 2013 #35

Fuck that. We could scale up in 2 years if it weren't for capitalists/capitalism preventing it Zorra Nov 2013 #36

Nuclear power IS our only hope if we want civilization to continue as it now exists... hunter Nov 2013 #37

We just have to change our mode of thinking RobertEarl Nov 2013 #41

How much electricity would we generate... roamer65 Nov 2013 #39

Fukushima laughs at this. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #42