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beachbum bob

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33. until big money is 100% removed

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 01:28 PM

Nov 2013

there is little choice. I don't accept voting for an ideology so an idiot like a george w bush could be elected. I know many principled progressives that to this day refuse to acknowledge their actions and those just like them allowed 2000 election to happens as it did. Sorry to say, but you gotta play with what you are dealt and right now supporting candidates that have no hope to be elected is giving elections to those (gop/teaparty types) that can only bring more damage either on national, state or local elections. Elizabeth Warren is a hell of woman and she won in a very liberal state with I think 52% or 53% of the vote. To think she could elevate to a national candidate is a bit silly. We could use more just like her at state and local levels.

But the big game, we have candidates that can win otherwise we will have more george w bush types. A political disaster for generations to come.

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Bold Progressives Drafted Elizabeth Warren - Let's Keep Doing That [View all] polichick Nov 2013 OP

ya, elizabeth warren has as much chance as a ralph nader beachbum bob Nov 2013 #1

So true, Bob. Only Third Way candidates can be elected! It's the Law. Zorra Nov 2013 #2

Liberals sitting out elections or voting for Nadir made the DLC and Tea party possible coldmountain Nov 2013 #9

The world sure would be a better place if useful Dem idiots didn't buy into... polichick Nov 2013 #14

+100000000 Zorra Nov 2013 #16

until big money is 100% removed beachbum bob Nov 2013 #33

What do you have against an org. like Bold Progressives trying to change a rigged game? polichick Nov 2013 #34

You should learn more about the election of 2000 RandiFan1290 Nov 2013 #51

Bob is very very sensible. pa28 Nov 2013 #41

I think the OP is referring to Senate and House candidates brooklynite Nov 2013 #3

I think progressives should choose a pres. primary candidate early too, not nec. Warren polichick Nov 2013 #7

Elizabeth Warren is an "Ideologue"? eom Kermitt Gribble Nov 2013 #8

du rec. xchrom Nov 2013 #4

I will only vote for actual progressives, myself. 99Forever Nov 2013 #5

imo that's the attitude we need to have... polichick Nov 2013 #11

An excellent idea. State and District MineralMan Nov 2013 #6

Exactly right, I wish more liberals understood this coldmountain Nov 2013 #10

Thanks. At least on DU, the focus is on the Executive most of the time. MineralMan Nov 2013 #13

I think we need to get behind someone for the pres. primary too - do it early and... polichick Nov 2013 #12

You're more than welcome to do that. MineralMan Nov 2013 #15

Bold Progressives is hardly "tilting at windmills" - progressives need... polichick Nov 2013 #17

They were operating in a single state. MineralMan Nov 2013 #26

Bold Progressives have almost a million members and growing... polichick Nov 2013 #31

Bold Progressives are very active in state legislative and MineralMan Nov 2013 #39

Right - and I'm recommending they take it to the next level... polichick Nov 2013 #40

And if they decide to stick to legislative races? MineralMan Nov 2013 #42

No reason not to do both. The president has veto power and chooses justices... polichick Nov 2013 #43

That's fine. Choose whomever you wish. MineralMan Nov 2013 #44

It's not complicated for no reason - it's a rigged system... polichick Nov 2013 #45

And who do you think can change that system? MineralMan Nov 2013 #47

Sure Congress is important and so is the presidency. Bottom line. polichick Nov 2013 #49

Could that be considered the "trickle up" theory of politics Revanchist Nov 2013 #18

Do we have that kind of time, when 1% have aleady taken so much... polichick Nov 2013 #19

Actually it's the only strategy coldmountain Nov 2013 #20

It has always been an effective strategy. We just forget to do it sometimes. MineralMan Nov 2013 #27

In many states and districts tabbycat31 Nov 2013 #22

Many DUers are active locally (I've been wherever I've lived) but that's not... polichick Nov 2013 #23

That's what I come to DU to talk about. MineralMan Nov 2013 #29

I was thinking of the General Discussion forum. polichick Nov 2013 #32

So was I. It's "General" Discussion. MineralMan Nov 2013 #35

That's cool - just don't assume that people who come to DU to talk about... polichick Nov 2013 #36

I don't assume anything about anyone. MineralMan Nov 2013 #38

If the people will lead the politicians will follow coldmountain Nov 2013 #24

I agree with you. Finding great candidates for our legislative and other MineralMan Nov 2013 #25

I've followed your posts before tabbycat31 Nov 2013 #46

Thank you. I used to focus on Presidential elections, but MineralMan Nov 2013 #48

Absolutely! We have to stop buying into the BS, we have to be the change we seek...let it start. mother earth Nov 2013 #21

So many right here at DU still buy the BS - sort of amazing the way it all works... polichick Nov 2013 #28

DURec leftstreet Nov 2013 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author stevenleser Nov 2013 #37

Count me in. Scuba Nov 2013 #50

Thanks! Nice to find a way for liberals to have an impact these days. polichick Nov 2013 #52

K&R woo me with science Nov 2013 #53