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last1standing

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22. Techically, that is what they do.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:44 PM
Nov 2013

I know they really don't but they say they do and they're rarely overturned.

Also, the problem with this form of division is that it can easily overstate or understate party allegiance based on a single turnout. Let's say in a conservative district in Mississippi the republicans run a very weak candidate while the Democrats run a populist who manages to hit all the right points. If the republican still wins by a 51/49 margin, the republicans in the state house can justify creating a district based on that result. I could also create other scenarios based on nearly any results that would still allow a corrupt majority to bolster its actual results.

The problem with asking the judiciary to look at it is there is no set judicial standard for review and even if there were, it would likely end up being arbitrary or capricious since this is the usual standard for governmental actions. So unless a plaintiff could prove racial discrimination that compromised a minority citizen's right to representation, most courts would side with the state.

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Congress can address anything with new laws. onehandle Nov 2013 #1
because those who change those laws are those who stay in office because of them spanone Nov 2013 #2
As I understand it fredamae Nov 2013 #3
The states can draw districts any way they like, SheilaT Nov 2013 #4
Gerrymandering is the only way the Repubs can win the House Lifelong Dem Nov 2013 #5
I remember a couple decades ago... KansDem Nov 2013 #6
I believe the district looks similar today tabbycat31 Nov 2013 #20
The biggest problem is that states are in charge of elections within MineralMan Nov 2013 #7
Yep. kentuck Nov 2013 #12
The states are required to make districts equal in population MineralMan Nov 2013 #16
Because, "They that have the gold make the rules." Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #8
The Supreme Court has found that racially based gerrymandering is unconstitutional but that PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #9
Iowa has a really good way of redistricting that is fair. Skidmore Nov 2013 #10
How would you make it different? last1standing Nov 2013 #11
I think the closest thing to fairness would be to make every district as close as possible to 50/50 kentuck Nov 2013 #13
Techically, that is what they do. last1standing Nov 2013 #22
The Senate and House were set up specifically to be that way. MineralMan Nov 2013 #21
LOL! If you don't think I understand the history/reasoning of our current system, reread my post. last1standing Nov 2013 #23
I don't know what you know. MineralMan Nov 2013 #24
Then I apologize but the tone of your post sounded rather condescending to me. last1standing Nov 2013 #25
No doubt there are better ways. MineralMan Nov 2013 #26
It would definitely take an admendment and the chances of that are slim to nil. last1standing Nov 2013 #28
Because people don't pay close enough, or any(!) attention to state & local politics. CrispyQ Nov 2013 #14
Your wife AND me. Cleita Nov 2013 #15
the same reason that they always vote to give themselves raises NightWatcher Nov 2013 #17
Since congressional rep elections are in the constitution congress can regulate on point Nov 2013 #18
the constitution says very little beachbum bob Nov 2013 #27
Lawsuits needed. gulliver Nov 2013 #19
Partisan vs. Racial Gerrymandering LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #29
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