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last1standing

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23. LOL! If you don't think I understand the history/reasoning of our current system, reread my post.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 03:00 PM
Nov 2013

Unless you're a Constitutional lawyer, I very much doubt you have a better understanding of how this nation was set up and the Constitutional rules that govern it than myself.

That said, my comments were directed at the gerrymandering system and how the rules that were set up over two hundred years ago may not be the most useful today. They are certainly not the most representative of the population. Propping up a system that no longer works is not in the best interests of the people or the nation.

The post-Civil War period changed much more about this country than most people realize. States are no longer sovereign over the federal government and the 14th Amendment's incorporation clause gave powers to the people that were once held exclusively to the states. Based on these changes, it can reasonably be argued that the states no longer need, or have a right to, equal voice in national government regardless of their population.

"We've always done it this way," without more, is not a valid argument.

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Congress can address anything with new laws. onehandle Nov 2013 #1
because those who change those laws are those who stay in office because of them spanone Nov 2013 #2
As I understand it fredamae Nov 2013 #3
The states can draw districts any way they like, SheilaT Nov 2013 #4
Gerrymandering is the only way the Repubs can win the House Lifelong Dem Nov 2013 #5
I remember a couple decades ago... KansDem Nov 2013 #6
I believe the district looks similar today tabbycat31 Nov 2013 #20
The biggest problem is that states are in charge of elections within MineralMan Nov 2013 #7
Yep. kentuck Nov 2013 #12
The states are required to make districts equal in population MineralMan Nov 2013 #16
Because, "They that have the gold make the rules." Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #8
The Supreme Court has found that racially based gerrymandering is unconstitutional but that PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #9
Iowa has a really good way of redistricting that is fair. Skidmore Nov 2013 #10
How would you make it different? last1standing Nov 2013 #11
I think the closest thing to fairness would be to make every district as close as possible to 50/50 kentuck Nov 2013 #13
Techically, that is what they do. last1standing Nov 2013 #22
The Senate and House were set up specifically to be that way. MineralMan Nov 2013 #21
LOL! If you don't think I understand the history/reasoning of our current system, reread my post. last1standing Nov 2013 #23
I don't know what you know. MineralMan Nov 2013 #24
Then I apologize but the tone of your post sounded rather condescending to me. last1standing Nov 2013 #25
No doubt there are better ways. MineralMan Nov 2013 #26
It would definitely take an admendment and the chances of that are slim to nil. last1standing Nov 2013 #28
Because people don't pay close enough, or any(!) attention to state & local politics. CrispyQ Nov 2013 #14
Your wife AND me. Cleita Nov 2013 #15
the same reason that they always vote to give themselves raises NightWatcher Nov 2013 #17
Since congressional rep elections are in the constitution congress can regulate on point Nov 2013 #18
the constitution says very little beachbum bob Nov 2013 #27
Lawsuits needed. gulliver Nov 2013 #19
Partisan vs. Racial Gerrymandering LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #29
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