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Omaha Steve

(108,959 posts)
128. ARE MOUNTAIN LIONS DANGEROUS?
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 03:01 AM
Nov 2013

I am sorry some DUers have been less than kind to your son. We have members that will insult ANYONE for any reason. Usually trolls that want democrats to look bad.

Omaha has had several lions killed in the last few years. All were killed. One was shot by an Omaha police officer by accident. None attacked a human or pet btw.

http://mountainlion.org/FAQfrequentlyaskedquestions.asp#Risk



To deer, yes! To people, not so much. Human encounters with mountain lions are rare and the risk of an attack is infinitely small. You are more likely to drown in your bathtub, be killed by a pet dog, or hit by lightning. If lions had any natural urge to hunt people, there would be attacks every single day. Instead, they avoid us.

But if you live, work, or play in cat country, be alert! Avoid walking alone between dusk and dawn when lions are most active. Keep your children and pets close to you. Never approach or corner a mountain lion (or any wild animal). If you do encounter a mountain lion, STOP. DO NOT RUN. Unlike safety advice for encountering bears, do not act timid or play dead in front of a cat.

Instead: Maintain eye contact. Stand tall. Look bigger by opening your coat or raising your arms. Slowly wave your arms and speak firmly. Throw items at the lion if necessary. Give the cat room and time to move on.

In the rare event of an attack, fight back. Most people succeed in driving the mountain lion away.

AND from the same link...

WILL SPORT HUNTING OF LIONS IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF PEOPLE, PETS AND LIVESTOCK?

No. The assertion that sport hunting is a necessary and effective strategy for reducing mountain lion attacks on people remains widespread in the mainstream media and in the popular literature. While some state wildlife agencies, such as in California and Wyoming, state that sport hunting cannot be expected to increase public safety, other state agencies have claimed the opposite, apparently to garner public support for sport hunting. For example, without any scientific research to back their theory, in 2005 the South Dakota Game, Fish and Parks offered as the primary justification for their state's first-ever sport hunting season on mountain lions that it "may be a more effective solution [than removal of individual lions] for dealing with problems caused by mountain lions." This would be like the police department saying their new plan to reduce crime is to start randomly arresting innocent people on the street.

Annually killing off thousands of lions in wilderness areas that avoid people does not make the remaining lion population fearful of humans.

An overwhelming number of studies have clearly demonstrated that sport hunting of lions not only does not increase the public's safety, it also does not reduce depredation on livestock or other domestic animals, and in fact appears to be responsible for the increase in human/lion conflicts in regions where lion mortality is excessive. For more information see MLF's 2006 report Effects of Sport Hunting Mountain Lions on Safety and Livestock and the latest research on what happens when adult lions are excessively hunted: Troubled Teens.

WHAT IS THE MOUNTAIN LION FOUNDATION?

Founded in 1986 to stop the trophy hunting of mountain lions in California, the Mountain Lion Foundation (MLF) has grown into a national, non-profit conservation and education organization dedicated to protecting mountain lions and their habitat. MLF has inspired citizens across the nation to act on behalf of lions and their habitat by presenting practical solutions to complex problems, providing unbiased information to media, aiding local activists, promoting lion research, influencing regulation and changing laws.

Your membership, at any level, makes you part of a nationwide network of individuals who commit dollars and energy to the cause of Saving America's Lion. For more information on who we are and what we have accomplished visit MLF's ABOUT page.

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What do the hunters do with the cougars they kill? OneGrassRoot Nov 2013 #1
Taco de gato grande. hobbit709 Nov 2013 #2
I remember stories about lion hunts in outdoor magazines but not recipes. HereSince1628 Nov 2013 #3
Nah, they just hang the heads and pelts over their fireplace. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #22
No. They drape the pelt over their penis bitchkitty Nov 2013 #53
ugh, so tired of the "small penis" jokes maxsolomon Nov 2013 #82
Except that it wasn't a joke. bitchkitty Nov 2013 #99
I'm not offended. Killing apex predators for sport offends me. maxsolomon Nov 2013 #106
just for you................ Ernesto Nov 2013 #103
question brucefamily6 Nov 2013 #109
It is not about the size so much as it is the man's perception of his masculinity Maraya1969 Nov 2013 #110
Your mistake is to assume Jenoch Nov 2013 #121
Thank You... brucefamily6 Nov 2013 #123
Several years ago there was a 17 year old boy Jenoch Nov 2013 #126
So killing cougars cures brain cancer? GeorgeGist Nov 2013 #4
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Because...? Omaha Steve Nov 2013 #6
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How do you DEFINE ethical? Omaha Steve Nov 2013 #8
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When did legal automatically equate with ethical? EOTE Nov 2013 #10
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So you think killing for fun is ethical. EOTE Nov 2013 #12
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Oh, well if a lot of people do it that makes it alright. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #19
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No it wouldn't be. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #30
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My point exactly. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #64
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You think supporting the wholesale slaughter of animals and vast destruction of the environment is? NuclearDem Nov 2013 #68
You do of course realize the difference between killing for necessity and killing for entertainment LanternWaste Nov 2013 #87
i agree - hunters for sport make me sick samsingh Nov 2013 #114
So again, you think that legal is equivalent to ethical. EOTE Nov 2013 #21
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OK, so you think that killing for fun is ethical. EOTE Nov 2013 #31
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You're changing the topic once again. You were talking about killing SOLELY for fun. EOTE Nov 2013 #40
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Not only do you not have a problem with it, you think it's ethical. EOTE Nov 2013 #45
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You do know that laws and morals are two different things, right? EOTE Nov 2013 #51
What about the black rhino hunt, or hunting other endangered animals elsewhere uppityperson Nov 2013 #52
If it's legal, then it's ethical. EOTE Nov 2013 #57
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Again, you're afraid to state your actual position. EOTE Nov 2013 #61
Yes. ...... I've head that idiotic piece of logic before. Just yesterday, in fact polly7 Nov 2013 #70
I asked about ethical (First Nebraska mountain lion permit goes to 15-year-old) Omaha Steve Nov 2013 #14
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But, I thought polly7 Nov 2013 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author polly7 Nov 2013 #24
he has every right to engage in his hunt much as we have every right to criticize it. LanternWaste Nov 2013 #86
I think it's unethical not to eat what you kill. alarimer Nov 2013 #88
What I've seen from Poddy's 20 posts... Scootaloo Nov 2013 #26
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You also said that killing for fun is ethical. EOTE Nov 2013 #33
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Killing EXCLUSIVELY for pleasure is what we're talking about here. EOTE Nov 2013 #38
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Uh huh. And at what point does the killing of an animal become unethical? EOTE Nov 2013 #49
You approve of child rapists? I didn't see that post. Link? uppityperson Nov 2013 #39
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Your grammar was unclear. uppityperson Nov 2013 #47
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"Legal" and "ethical" are unrelated words, you know. Scootaloo Nov 2013 #75
I define it as not harassing and bullying children... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #80
This message was self-deleted by its author tenderfoot Nov 2013 #18
Agree with the sentiment of the letter. KY5 Nov 2013 #16
+1 nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #74
The original story that caused the letter didn't mention he is sick with link Omaha Steve Nov 2013 #81
Old enough to shoot yourself one of god's most magnificent creatures for fun, stranger81 Nov 2013 #95
Odd Way to Cheer Up Sick Kids otohara Nov 2013 #17
Is he still sick? maxsolomon Nov 2013 #83
Well if it came from a PETA person at least they could have included a pin-up snooper2 Nov 2013 #20
Ha! Good point! nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #76
While I am not a huge fan of hunting predators, Jenoch Nov 2013 #23
ironic that a person with a life-threatening disease wants to kill something else. legal or not spanone Nov 2013 #25
That was my first thougt too. Auntie Bush Nov 2013 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author bitchkitty Nov 2013 #54
We live in such an aggressive and bullying society. NCTraveler Nov 2013 #32
fuck people like the letter writer datasuspect Nov 2013 #34
Fuck that gutless letter writer. HappyMe Nov 2013 #43
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Fuck senseless killing. n/t bitchkitty Nov 2013 #55
And people who write harassing letters, delta17 Nov 2013 #73
Exactly. No real "good guys" here. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #77
I imagine the one will cause temporary emotional discomfort LanternWaste Nov 2013 #90
I don't hunt, and I am not a fan of trophy hunting. delta17 Nov 2013 #91
this thread illustrates some of the reasons there are less and less rural Democrats. Kali Nov 2013 #58
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Sure. Hunting can also be about providing food. It can also be about ecological issues. EOTE Nov 2013 #62
you missed the huge point Kali Nov 2013 #63
No, you're missing the point. I acknowledge that hunting CAN be about way more than killing. EOTE Nov 2013 #66
This. i am not an idiot, i fully understand what hunting provides La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #108
I agree. HappyMe Nov 2013 #65
What is the "way more than just killing" that justifies hunting apex predators? maxsolomon Nov 2013 #84
The big picture can be hard to see, and it often encompasses things that make us uncomfortable. Kali Nov 2013 #92
Nebraska man pays $13,500 for permit to hunt a mountain lion (why so much if it is ethical?) Omaha Steve Nov 2013 #71
Where did it say Montezumasdaddy Nov 2013 #72
What does mountain lion taste like? I imagine it would have to be slow-cooked to be edible. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #78
Things like wolves and lions are not generally considered good eating Marrah_G Nov 2013 #79
False Drahthaardogs Nov 2013 #111
If it ate one of my pets maxsolomon Nov 2013 #85
Arkansas refusedd to acknowledge mountain lions present here until they caught one on video. moriah Nov 2013 #101
You're the person who just got booted, right? Nice new name... joeybee12 Nov 2013 #89
Hello- Holden's mom here brucefamily6 Nov 2013 #93
welcome to DU gopiscrap Nov 2013 #94
Hi Michelle - TBF Nov 2013 #98
Best wishes to Holden and to his family and friends. There are outspoken people uppityperson Nov 2013 #100
You put it out ther and there will be people who think what you are doing is wrong Marrah_G Nov 2013 #112
I agree with Marrah G. stranger81 Nov 2013 #116
your post is so completely wrong brucefamily6 Nov 2013 #117
I misread and thought you purchased the one for 13k Marrah_G Nov 2013 #120
I agree brucefamily6 Nov 2013 #122
Looks like Poddy Fries (poddy mouth) died quickly but ethically Omaha Steve Nov 2013 #96
It certainly looked that way. In_The_Wind Nov 2013 #97
May he awaken in a celestial field with bullets flying around him. n/t Judi Lynn Nov 2013 #115
I wish California would have mountain lion hunts indie9197 Nov 2013 #102
A little history... Kayucian Nov 2013 #104
Thanks for the post Omaha Steve Nov 2013 #105
FACTS brucefamily6 Nov 2013 #107
You mistake anecdotes for fact, using mere presence and possibility to justify killing for fun. Kayucian Nov 2013 #119
Thanks cor the info Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #127
ARE MOUNTAIN LIONS DANGEROUS? Omaha Steve Nov 2013 #128
This post is why I posted this later Friday Omaha Steve Nov 2013 #113
Nothing like the 'hunt of a lifetime' blackspade Nov 2013 #118
why is his cancer so important? brucefamily6 Nov 2013 #124
Nobody's forcing their view on anyone else here. stranger81 Nov 2013 #125
You missed my point entirely.... blackspade Nov 2013 #129
Why MFM008 Nov 2013 #130
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