Is Snowden buying asylum by fanning the flames of anti-Americanism?

[joshcryer]

205. I think our vote can matter on a local level.

For instance I helped shut down the Pinion Canyon military drill site expansion in Colorado, as did a lot of other Democrats (and I think even some Libertarians were in on that one).

All politics is local, after all.

But we aren't going to do shit, collectively, or otherwise, to stop the security state.

How do I know?

The United Kingdom is absolute proof. There are even DUers here who get offended when you point out their incredible police state and try to deflect from it.

Us, in the developed world, in the western world, we'd be happy to give up a bit of privacy for a little (or no) security. OK so some robber got caught after hitting a store in the UK. Is that worth a camera for every 32 people in the UK (same link)? Is it? Fuck no it's not.

You're not going to change it, we're not going to change it, no one is going to change it, it's going to get worse. The more fat and happy we are the more we don't give a shit.