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12. We won't be able to sell our home for a while for any decent price.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 08:29 AM
Nov 2013

The house across the street is going into short sale (very sad, family broke up and one of the couple had major spending/debt issues) and the house next door is now for sale as the owner died in a tragic auto accident. His daughter makes close to minimum wage and cannot afford to keep it.

So we just concentrate on paying off debts and fixing it up as we like it--making it comfortable for us.

However, I live in the rust belt which has seen what the rest of the country views as recession for as long as I've been able to vote. I don't think we saw a boom as some cities like Nashville have (we have a similar population). However, I am grateful for living in a place so beautiful. I took my dog to a park with lots of trails to hike on and it was free to enter and she could run free--it didn't cost anything extra than what we already pay in taxes and the people I did encounter there were really nice, down to earth. Our property taxes are higher than most d/t our county's needs (I live in upstate NY) but our schools are very good; I'd say even our so-called bad schools are better than some you see in other places, they just have higher challenges--poverty and the PTSD children have from living in violent neighborhoods-- the teachers are well prepared and dedicated; the physical facilities are aging and could be much improved. The county seat -- Syracuse has financial problems like other cities do mostly related to pension obligations and other mandates and the fact we have had prior unscrupulous mayors who were not good stewards and put the city behind. Mayor Lee Alexander is one such person who did go to prison.

But we have seen major employers and industries leave and not come back. The most recent threat is Lockheed Martin leaving. Schumer convinced them to stay but for how long? Chances are they will bolt. There was a gun manufacturer who left to S. Carolina (not really torn up about that one). I'm convinced our county and city's future lies in new economy strategies and there are nascent organizations set up already to develop those. Instead of being in the same horrible decline and losing hope of things getting better, I prefer to frame our situation as one in transition. While Detroit may seem like the canary in the coal mine; it is more a cautionary tale--one that may surprise us in the end and be inspirational. Detroit's story is not yet ended.

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And if you are in the top 10% . . . TomClash Nov 2013 #1
If they don't kill you 99th_Monkey Nov 2013 #26
Shhhhh . . . TomClash Nov 2013 #38
"Fail, America, Fail." - Republicon Starve-the-Beast Freaks (R) Berlum Nov 2013 #2
Here's a little fact to tell a Republican living on Soc Security reformist2 Nov 2013 #3
Is that true?? A Little Weird Nov 2013 #4
If the federal minimum wage applied in all states, that would be quite true. JDPriestly Nov 2013 #31
Thanks for the explanation A Little Weird Nov 2013 #35
Exactly. Furthermore I loathe the insinuation in that post that says seniors are doing so well duffyduff Nov 2013 #39
Right. Whereas the minimum wages is that -- the minimum. JDPriestly Nov 2013 #40
ok, at 40 x $7.25 x 4.3 (weeks in a month) Bohunk68 Nov 2013 #13
citing an "average" most certainly does NOT mean that "half are below." magical thyme Nov 2013 #17
Nope. Myrina Nov 2013 #21
oops! yikes.... magical thyme Nov 2013 #36
The highest Social Security benefit is about $3,300 per month. Nobody gets $10,000 per month. JDPriestly Nov 2013 #32
Actually, you are thinking "Median". rgbecker Nov 2013 #18
Except that Social Security benefits top out at, if I recall correctly, about $3,300. And very few JDPriestly Nov 2013 #41
I couldn't find it either, but if you.... rgbecker Nov 2013 #42
The median and average are so close because the difference between the highest and lowest JDPriestly Nov 2013 #44
The point is that 160 hours of work per month ought to amount to more than a Soc Security check. reformist2 Nov 2013 #23
they'll take care of that, by reducing SS benefits Skittles Nov 2013 #25
In my mom's case, Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #28
It does in many states. JDPriestly Nov 2013 #33
Actually, it's about the same: JDPriestly Nov 2013 #29
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real wages (buying power) have been declining since 1979 KurtNYC Nov 2013 #6
The 700,000 of us Detroiters would beg to differ, but I suppose I get your point. marmar Nov 2013 #11
I grabbed Detroit because so many are familiar with it but KurtNYC Nov 2013 #16
That is good for the environment. JDPriestly Nov 2013 #30
We won't be able to sell our home for a while for any decent price. eilen Nov 2013 #12
What scares me is that I am not hearing any vision for the future. KurtNYC Nov 2013 #15
Obama himself said the jobs are not coming back. grasswire Nov 2013 #27
k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #8
k/r marmar Nov 2013 #9
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Democrats included, they are almost all bought off! Dustlawyer Nov 2013 #14
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