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KurtNYC

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15. What scares me is that I am not hearing any vision for the future.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 09:30 AM
Nov 2013

I don't buy into just calling 2008 a "recession" and implying that things will eventually go "back to normal". There is no going back. We are in a new phase economically. The population growth and having Europe in post-war recovery that put us on top in the 1950s is gone forever. The economy is now like a slot machine that doesn't payout any more. It's time for a new game but the current one may have to crash completely before any meaningful transition can begin.

A new economy would need more jobs, perhaps with less hours worked by each person. And wages adequate to sustain our standard of living. But the current world economy uses the USA to be the consumers who fuel growth in overseas factories by buying increasingly on credit. We are spending money we don't make any more in order to prop up the illusion of "normal" for as long as possible.

I'm hopeful that Detroit and other cities will transition. People are very willing to better the places they make their homes but they need a vision that involves them, one that they can plug into and help make a difference.



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And if you are in the top 10% . . . TomClash Nov 2013 #1
If they don't kill you 99th_Monkey Nov 2013 #26
Shhhhh . . . TomClash Nov 2013 #38
"Fail, America, Fail." - Republicon Starve-the-Beast Freaks (R) Berlum Nov 2013 #2
Here's a little fact to tell a Republican living on Soc Security reformist2 Nov 2013 #3
Is that true?? A Little Weird Nov 2013 #4
If the federal minimum wage applied in all states, that would be quite true. JDPriestly Nov 2013 #31
Thanks for the explanation A Little Weird Nov 2013 #35
Exactly. Furthermore I loathe the insinuation in that post that says seniors are doing so well duffyduff Nov 2013 #39
Right. Whereas the minimum wages is that -- the minimum. JDPriestly Nov 2013 #40
ok, at 40 x $7.25 x 4.3 (weeks in a month) Bohunk68 Nov 2013 #13
citing an "average" most certainly does NOT mean that "half are below." magical thyme Nov 2013 #17
Nope. Myrina Nov 2013 #21
oops! yikes.... magical thyme Nov 2013 #36
The highest Social Security benefit is about $3,300 per month. Nobody gets $10,000 per month. JDPriestly Nov 2013 #32
Actually, you are thinking "Median". rgbecker Nov 2013 #18
Except that Social Security benefits top out at, if I recall correctly, about $3,300. And very few JDPriestly Nov 2013 #41
I couldn't find it either, but if you.... rgbecker Nov 2013 #42
The median and average are so close because the difference between the highest and lowest JDPriestly Nov 2013 #44
The point is that 160 hours of work per month ought to amount to more than a Soc Security check. reformist2 Nov 2013 #23
they'll take care of that, by reducing SS benefits Skittles Nov 2013 #25
In my mom's case, Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #28
It does in many states. JDPriestly Nov 2013 #33
Actually, it's about the same: JDPriestly Nov 2013 #29
We need the opposite dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #5
Yes, the "payroll tax holiday" dotymed Nov 2013 #7
real wages (buying power) have been declining since 1979 KurtNYC Nov 2013 #6
The 700,000 of us Detroiters would beg to differ, but I suppose I get your point. marmar Nov 2013 #11
I grabbed Detroit because so many are familiar with it but KurtNYC Nov 2013 #16
That is good for the environment. JDPriestly Nov 2013 #30
We won't be able to sell our home for a while for any decent price. eilen Nov 2013 #12
What scares me is that I am not hearing any vision for the future. KurtNYC Nov 2013 #15
Obama himself said the jobs are not coming back. grasswire Nov 2013 #27
k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #8
k/r marmar Nov 2013 #9
The Oligarchs And Corporations Own And Control The Politicians That Own And Control Us cantbeserious Nov 2013 #10
Democrats included, they are almost all bought off! Dustlawyer Nov 2013 #14
I think it is part of the zombie fascination making the rounds. raouldukelives Nov 2013 #19
Corporate thieves, corporate fascists. nt woo me with science Nov 2013 #20
Wanna hear something really scary? bvar22 Nov 2013 #22
the blue links of death is looking for you! nt xchrom Nov 2013 #24
Mmmm. Some mighty fine tea they must be drinking in DC. nt adirondacker Nov 2013 #37
K & R. dchill Nov 2013 #34
kick woo me with science Nov 2013 #43
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