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pipi_k

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63. that's

Mon Nov 4, 2013, 02:07 PM

Nov 2013

my take on it too.

Those saying "on demand" are splitting hairs. Of course it's on demand.

Rarely needed because there's adequate birth control available is altogether different.

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Does "abortion should be safe, legal and rare" pretty much describe your approach to the issue? [View all] Nye Bevan Nov 2013 OP

Not really. Demobrat Nov 2013 #1

This. redqueen Nov 2013 #5

Hell yes. Daemonaquila Nov 2013 #105

I don't agree. phylny Nov 2013 #109

+1 leftstreet Nov 2013 #12

+1000 ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #20

Agreed. It's why I voted "no" in the poll n/t livetohike Nov 2013 #43

The "rare" part comes about via universal access to free contraception. kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #46

that's pipi_k Nov 2013 #63

+1 sakabatou Nov 2013 #90

This. ^^^ CrispyQ Nov 2013 #61

that and "none of my damn business". Warren Stupidity Nov 2013 #71

+1. That's why I voted no. nt NCTraveler Nov 2013 #76

That should be Option #1. Zorra Nov 2013 #94

Safe, Legal, and None of Anyone's Business get the red out Nov 2013 #2

+1 grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #19

+infinity etherealtruth Nov 2013 #25

+ 1 Myrina Nov 2013 #28

Yes. n/t me b zola Nov 2013 #35

+1 n/t Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #38

This. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #42

+1 n/t tammywammy Nov 2013 #54

+++++++ uppityperson Nov 2013 #56

Yup. n/t GoCubsGo Nov 2013 #66

Absolutely! silverweb Nov 2013 #79

And acess to free birth control idwiyo Nov 2013 #86

This is my answer bigwillq Nov 2013 #99

+1. The word "rare" does not belong there. It is judgmental. n/t MadrasT Nov 2013 #118

No. It should be safe, legal, hygienic, affordalbe and available as needed. So should... uppityperson Nov 2013 #3

I think this is the best answer. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2013 #62

Safe, legal and readily available at all times and places. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #4

It should be safe, legal, and available as much as it's needed gollygee Nov 2013 #6

I think so, especially to birth control and real sex ed. I find it hard to believe any RKP5637 Nov 2013 #69

Safe and legal, yes, but rare, no. I want every woman who does not want Nay Nov 2013 #7

Pretty much, yes. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2013 #8

I couldn't have said it better myself. HappyMe Nov 2013 #15

Me neither War Horse Nov 2013 #36

I will put a check mark next to this response. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #16

Sums up my feelings as well maddezmom Nov 2013 #23

That's exactly how I feel. You summed it up for me perfectly! eom BlueCaliDem Nov 2013 #32

Check for this box. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #40

Thank you. Amazing how some here don't understand the meaning of rare in this context. n/t Dawgs Nov 2013 #50

We understand perfectly well Demobrat Nov 2013 #108

No, not mmmkay. n/t Dawgs Nov 2013 #112

Which part do you have a problem with, Demobrat Nov 2013 #114

"Abortion is usually a very traumatic experience for a woman". Some, yes, but not "usually" uppityperson Nov 2013 #59

We have had different experiences, then. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2013 #64

I am wondering what your experience is? uppityperson Nov 2013 #68

Perhaps my use of "very" was overstating. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2013 #72

Thanks. Talking about all this is necessary and I thank you for doing so in a civil manner. uppityperson Nov 2013 #73

Likewise! Lizzie Poppet Nov 2013 #82

I have had my teeth deep cleaned, filed down, pulled out, RebelOne Nov 2013 #83

Yes. Rare, to me, means lots and lots of education and open dialog on birth control. onehandle Nov 2013 #9

AARRGH! Who was the idio...person who came up with 'rare' ? leftstreet Nov 2013 #10

Someone who thought our human rights were something to be compromised redqueen Nov 2013 #17

No kidding leftstreet Nov 2013 #22

That analogy doesn't work because the rationalization they use is that abortion is a bad, horrible, redqueen Nov 2013 #31

True enough leftstreet Nov 2013 #34

Agree. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #49

Was it Clinton? nt NCTraveler Nov 2013 #78

Only if gay marriage was an invasive medical procedure that was Crunchy Frog Nov 2013 #113

So Ted Kennedy "tried to ingratiate himself with the religious right"? Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #26

He was a practicing Catholic. redqueen Nov 2013 #39

Ted Kennedy embraced it, but I'm not sure if he came up with it: Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #24

Bill Clinton Demobrat Nov 2013 #48

Ted Kennedy was way ahead of Bill Clinton on "rare". See post above (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #52

This is what I remember Demobrat Nov 2013 #57

He is welcome to have as few as he wants. idwiyo Nov 2013 #84

Is he welcome to encourage sex education and accessible contraception? (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #92

He is welcome to support Her's and Her's alone Right to Choose why, when and how many. idwiyo Nov 2013 #96

Rare means something different than what you're thinking. n/t Dawgs Nov 2013 #53

Infrequent, uncommon leftstreet Nov 2013 #74

Exactly. n/t Dawgs Nov 2013 #104

I had to vote yes in spite of that word's presence. I don't think 'rare' is relevant. ancianita Nov 2013 #91

No. That's just bullshit rhetoric. cali Nov 2013 #11

Safe, legal and available are more important than frequency. pampango Nov 2013 #13

It seems to me that there is ohheckyeah Nov 2013 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #18

The catholic church would hand out condoms like candies Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #27

What post #1 said. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #21

its safe and legal, whether it's rare is a woman's choice.... spanone Nov 2013 #29

I like "rare" because it implies access to birth control and appropriate education. IdaBriggs Nov 2013 #30

the 'rare' part is unnecessary rightwing pandering. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #33

Safe, legal and rare as a result of education and ample access to birth control. Brickbat Nov 2013 #37

Safe, legal Aerows Nov 2013 #41

For me, this is the ideal. ZombieHorde Nov 2013 #44

That assumes legal and affordable birth control that all women have access to Warpy Nov 2013 #45

Safe, legal and rare and available. Autumn Nov 2013 #47

AAAAAAAAAAACK. NO . no no. no PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #51

To me, "rare" means preferring sex education and condom use over abortion. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #58

No. "Rare" is an adjective that describes how often something happens. It's subjective. And bullshit PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #70

+1 idwiyo Nov 2013 #81

Without "rare" Democrats will continue to lose elections and also the right to choose. Dawgs Nov 2013 #55

I certainly don't feel people should be forced into abortion for financial reasons Yo_Mama Nov 2013 #60

If everyone had access to contraception and education, the need for abortion would be cut by 3/4. appleannie1 Nov 2013 #65

About 2/3 right. Iggo Nov 2013 #67

I voted NO, because I believe that the choice for abortion MineralMan Nov 2013 #75

I voted no gopiscrap Nov 2013 #77

I vote NO. HER body, HER choice. Everyone else should just mind their own business, period. idwiyo Nov 2013 #80

What I wish more... is that the people who posted polls actually voted in them. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #85

I don't usually vote right away when I post a poll Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #100

Thank you Nye ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #106

"rare" is too open to interpretation One_Life_To_Give Nov 2013 #87

I think abortion should be available on demand, but I selected "rare" BeeBee Nov 2013 #88

+1 nt Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #93

HOGWASH!! Reduced? To what? Numbers mean nothing without context. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #95

No, the only hogwash here is your response to my post. BeeBee Nov 2013 #102

Rare or not, it is not my call. Rex Nov 2013 #89

I think abortion should be safe and legal. BlueCheese Nov 2013 #97

The only two requirements should be safe and legal HarveyDarkey Nov 2013 #98

Abortion is not a "problem" Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2013 #101

Yes, because it is technically surgery fried eggs Nov 2013 #103

So "safe, legal and rare" carries the day overwhelmingly on DU. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #107

I firmly feel that the woman's right to autonomy trumps all LostOne4Ever Nov 2013 #110

My approach to the issue is that I have one head attached to one neck Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #111

You have no interest in encouraging improved access to contraception? Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #115

You can't encourage access. You can broaden access. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #116

No, safe, legal, on demand and none of my business The Second Stone Nov 2013 #117