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last1standing

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40. Thanks. I think this thread is helping me to evolve, which is partially why I posted it.

Mon Nov 4, 2013, 04:18 PM

Nov 2013

I've always spouted the "safe, legal, and rare" talking point because ... well, I don't know why, really. I guess it's because I tend to think I make better decisions than others - which is patently untrue. It was likely a bad decision to even make this OP.

Unfortunately, logic can live with ignorance and does in all of us to some extent. My empathy for the pain of others can overcome the logic that I can't completely understand their situation. It's not for me to judge them or to try to manage their lives for them.

While I knew that logically, the OP and the resulting thread has helped me sort it in my mind a bit better.

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Yes, I want abortion to be "rare" (and why it doesn't matter what I want). [View all] last1standing Nov 2013 OP

I disagree: gopiscrap Nov 2013 #1

It's difficult for me to believe that you are being sincere. Nine Nov 2013 #29

Dude, I believe in everyones right to take a child to term.. gopiscrap Nov 2013 #30

"I want abortion to be very common.... I believe in encouraging aggressive family planning." Nine Nov 2013 #31

Like I said, I believe in the right to have a child (or children) gopiscrap Nov 2013 #33

You said you want abortion to be common. Nine Nov 2013 #37

I do want it to be common gopiscrap Nov 2013 #39

uhhhh............. Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #50

I'm right there with GOPiscrap. Daemonaquila Nov 2013 #47

thank you! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #51

nope. nope. noooo PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #2

Post of the thread. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #3

No offense, but you're arguing something I just stated I agree with in the OP. last1standing Nov 2013 #4

Well, if you're going to post your (stupid) opinion, I will refute it. You're on a discussion board, PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #5

You seem to want a fight I neither believe in or want to engage in. last1standing Nov 2013 #11

You refuse to take my arguments to heart so... tit for tat. Welcome to the internet!! PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #13

That it what I took away from your post etherealtruth Nov 2013 #8

Thanks. last1standing Nov 2013 #16

+1 What is and isn't "safest" is up to Her to decide, as is Why, When, and How Many. idwiyo Nov 2013 #52

You are mixing 2 issues together. Contraception. Access to abortion. uppityperson Nov 2013 #6

I agree. last1standing Nov 2013 #10

My old mother said she hoped none of her kids would get an abortion but she was going to uppityperson Nov 2013 #18

I agree with your mother 100%. last1standing Nov 2013 #21

You want 'poor people to manage their money better?' leftstreet Nov 2013 #7

It's about the ignorance of wanting to manage other people's lives. last1standing Nov 2013 #9

In the same way, you want Food Assistance to be rare leftstreet Nov 2013 #15

Nope. I was exposing one of my ignorant prejudices. last1standing Nov 2013 #17

"Legal but rare" is a form of female shaming. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #14

thanks for a good post locks Nov 2013 #19

Thanks. last1standing Nov 2013 #23

It's about the conversation get the red out Nov 2013 #20

I agree. last1standing Nov 2013 #22

I'm thankful that you wrote this and I'm glad we're discussing abortion cali Nov 2013 #24

Thanks. last1standing Nov 2013 #26

It is 'rare' that a woman would use abortion as a means of birth control. Rex Nov 2013 #25

The entire point of my OP is that I don't have a valid argument in this discussion. last1standing Nov 2013 #27

True, we are only speculating on what she should do with her body. Rex Nov 2013 #28

Going further, it is only my ignorant prejudice that make me believe I should give my opinion. last1standing Nov 2013 #34

I see, I am not like you in that regard. I don't feel like I could manage Rex Nov 2013 #36

Sorry, resonded to the wrong reply last1standing Nov 2013 #43

We all have our prejudices and ignorances. Exposing them is uncomfortable but sometimes necessary. last1standing Nov 2013 #41

Good for you, it takes a big person to talk about flaws in a public forum imo. Rex Nov 2013 #42

Thanks. I believe admitting weakness makes one stronger. last1standing Nov 2013 #45

Yet you felt the need to make your argument. Daemonaquila Nov 2013 #48

Ok. Thanks for your opinion. last1standing Nov 2013 #49

My response is not so much to the OP as others responding etherealtruth Nov 2013 #32

Thank you. I think most here are responding to my prejudices which I've acknowledged. last1standing Nov 2013 #38

I am going to give you a k and r... NCTraveler Nov 2013 #35

Thanks. I think this thread is helping me to evolve, which is partially why I posted it. last1standing Nov 2013 #40

" It was likely a bad decision to even make this OP." NCTraveler Nov 2013 #44

Re"Do we dare admit that increasing the number of abortions..."I'd say it's not about daring at all ancianita Nov 2013 #46