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Orrex

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26. If I took a stack of money that you left on your car's hood, what is my crime?
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 04:33 PM
Nov 2013

Next question:
If I took a stack of money that you left on your car's hood, what is my crime if the money is counterfeit?

Is the viewing of a digitally rendered image of an artificial child the same as the crime of viewing an image of an actual child?


It's not a perfect analogy, I admit, but it highlights the difference between intent and action. Of course, intent can be a crime, such as "possession with intent to sell" drugs, but that's not a great analogy, either.

Might it not be reasonably argued that a pedophile who can satisfy his urges with a digital rendering of a child is less of a threat than a pedophile who can't? What if some of the 20,000 suspects claim that they went to this site because it was a digital portrayal of a child, rather than a real child? How would we prove their intent beyond a reasonable doubt?

We can certainly attack the vile behavior of pedophiles, but if we're talking about the legal framework for addressing their crimes, then it's vital that we act objectively if only to make sure that convictions aren't later thrown out due to ill-considered laws.

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excellent gopiscrap Nov 2013 #1
There are 20,000 people who should now be in prison. MineralMan Nov 2013 #2
Interestingly enough, this kind of shit is legal. Buddha_of_Wisdom Nov 2013 #7
That may be, but I still feel the same about those 20,000 people. MineralMan Nov 2013 #9
And I agree. Buddha_of_Wisdom Nov 2013 #13
Very difficult. GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #14
Here's the thing. Apparently this is going on, using live children. MineralMan Nov 2013 #15
If I took a stack of money that you left on your car's hood, what is my crime? Orrex Nov 2013 #26
All very good points. MindPilot Nov 2013 #30
But is it "abuse" when it's merely an animated image, not a real person? 99th_Monkey Nov 2013 #3
The perp didn't know that. He thought he was talking to a real human being..his intent was against a shraby Nov 2013 #6
That does not constitute any real abuse or injury to anyone, 99th_Monkey Nov 2013 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #16
I suppose. But your premise is a bit shaky. 99th_Monkey Nov 2013 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #17
Well, I'm not "in favor" of adult-on-child sex, if that's what you're asking 99th_Monkey Nov 2013 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #21
agreed! nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2013 #24
how is it entrapment ? it's not like they are telling people the girls are of legal age JI7 Nov 2013 #23
I don't care how you catch these sick predators... CoffeeCat Nov 2013 #4
that is awesome! TeamPooka Nov 2013 #5
In the U.S. that would make for an interesting court case. GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #8
I agree trumad Nov 2013 #11
Just to clarify the Supreme Court decision.... Jim Lane Nov 2013 #32
Amazing! Orrex Nov 2013 #12
20,000!? Dash87 Nov 2013 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #22
Using the strictest definition, there are an estimated 70 million pedophiles on Earth. Xithras Nov 2013 #28
Those are some astonishing numbers! MindPilot Nov 2013 #29
Research suggests that it's biological, and possibly genetic. Xithras Nov 2013 #31
Whatever pipi_k Nov 2013 #25
Interesting that they thought it was a real person. Rex Nov 2013 #27
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