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In reply to the discussion: Tea Bagger - "Person Who Cannot Afford Health Care Will Just Have To Die" [View all]Taitertots
(7,745 posts)39. Long response, I'll try to cover as much as I can with the limited time I have available
Is it reasonable to create regressive tax structures to punish poor people for petty vices?
Is it reasonable to make wearing seat belts or helmets a criminal matter?
" Governments know that taxes on cigarettes have reduced smoking, saved lives, and cut costs. That same logic will invariably be applied to snack food and soda -- maybe even red meat."
The same logic could apply in any number of outrageous laws. Laws that seem reasonable right up to the point when you can't afford Diet Coke... Or you get pulled over on the way to work because "It looked like your seat belt wasn't on".
There are pros and cons to single payer. I've heard Canadians who love their system; I've heard Canadian health care horror stories. Ditto England. To me, it's like they are all in this huge HMO -- which is better than nothing. Ireland's system is interesting -- everyone gets a government backed plan like ACA bronze, and the private market offers upsells. That's really what I'd like to see here.
If the government is going to get involved in health care... I think it should strive to bring the same level of treatment to all Americans. If "the private market upsells" by offering rich people preferred care in government subsidized facilities, then I think that system is inherently unfair.
Because the real answer isn't "yes." First of all, you assume I do nothing dangerous (not necessarily true).
Please, humor me and post one dangerous activity that you pursue that you think should be banned and/or highly taxed.
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Tea Bagger - "Person Who Cannot Afford Health Care Will Just Have To Die" [View all]
TheMastersNemesis
Nov 2013
OP
My Story Comes From A Doctor I Actually Know And Has Helped Develop Our Exchange.
TheMastersNemesis
Nov 2013
#3
Do you support laws requiring helmets while driving cars? HANS neck braces? Ban unhealthy foods?..
Taitertots
Nov 2013
#21
Actually, it's a suzuki and I wear a helmet even thou I don't need to in Michigan
Taitertots
Nov 2013
#25
Long response, I'll try to cover as much as I can with the limited time I have available
Taitertots
Nov 2013
#39
It sucks that you're right, but you ARE right. You have to play the hand you're dealt, not the one
LaydeeBug
Nov 2013
#8
To answer you, we demand that they get care because we want to be consistent in our argument.
phleshdef
Nov 2013
#11
That's a very good question. How do you ask an unconscious person if they want to pull themselves
IronLionZion
Nov 2013
#18
Congrats on the new way to wrap your desire to see Republicans dying at your hands. Get help. nt
Dreamer Tatum
Nov 2013
#23
"How would I know you could afford it if you were not conscious?" = I love that Doc.
TeamPooka
Nov 2013
#27
I've had this same general conversation with a libertarian type about food stamps
gollygee
Nov 2013
#29