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bluestate10

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139. If a man or woman freely choses to sell sex, how is that "inherently"
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 09:45 PM
Nov 2013

dehumanizing? You have a tendency to paint with a broad brush and don't explain anything. I don't disagree that selling sex doesn't involve economics and if we did a better job with the social safety net and funding education we could seriously reduce prostitution, even by those that one wouldn't suspect are selling their affections.

But because you tend to paint with a broad brush the task of eliminating human trafficking for sex become harder because people like you would have police resources going after the male of female Masters or Doctoral candidate that is freely selling sex to pay for education and housing instead of going after pimps that are forcibly holding women and girls against their will and forcing them to sell sex. You likely don't see a difference between the two situations, that is a societal problem, IMO.

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It aint easy out there ... what's a pimp to do? 1000words Nov 2013 #1
Pretty pathetic when you have to pay someone to have sex with you Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #2
actually it's not when you think about it dlwickham Nov 2013 #3
You're correct. nt bluestate10 Nov 2013 #6
Yes, it allows them to avoid having to treat the other person like a human being nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #7
Plenty of folks in "committed" relationships treating each other like shit 1000words Nov 2013 #10
Obviously that is bad. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #11
Indeed. 1000words Nov 2013 #13
no it doesn't , one is dehumanizing in itself JI7 Nov 2013 #23
Prostitution is inherently that way relationships aren't nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #47
If a man or woman freely choses to sell sex, how is that "inherently" bluestate10 Nov 2013 #139
because simply, the vast majority are not "freely", they are desperate. and desperate is being used seabeyond Nov 2013 #143
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #147
78-92% of prostitute were raped as children. yes. and these are the people being used. so making seabeyond Nov 2013 #161
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #173
really, you talk about the vast majority in desperate situation being used in an ugly manner seabeyond Nov 2013 #174
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Do we have a right to limit pimps from forcing women into sexual slavery? uppityperson Nov 2013 #177
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uh. huh. uppityperson Nov 2013 #180
yes. legalize prostitution. make it illegal to buy and pimp. works for sweden and other seabeyond Nov 2013 #184
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #185
I know a woman in the "industry" and she does very well. 1000words Nov 2013 #188
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #190
That's why it should be legal and regulated 1000words Nov 2013 #199
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #200
you know about the dutch model, right? that would be prostitution is legal. the jon and pimp go to seabeyond Nov 2013 #216
Precisely why I used it as a viable model 1000words Nov 2013 #219
then you are for the pimp and jon going to jail? i am glad you are informed. thanks. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #226
She's referring to the Swedish, not Dutch, model LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #233
Ah ... The Dutch have tweaked their system, as well. I took the poster's data at face value. 1000words Nov 2013 #239
this is an article that totally counters what is said. seabeyond Nov 2013 #250
It's what a lot of workers want- basic human rights like any other job. LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #253
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This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #205
Good question 1000words Nov 2013 #214
Looks like that loser took a trip to Tombstone....hope he enjoys his pizza. nt MADem Nov 2013 #351
you might educate yourself. cause there are a lot of hurt, desperate woman out there, and you post seabeyond Nov 2013 #181
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #192
who are you? seabeyond Nov 2013 #197
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This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #221
you say the majority of prostitutes are desperate or sex slaves or .... but what about the few seabeyond Nov 2013 #224
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #227
The "47%" figure is garbage Major Nikon Nov 2013 #467
I agree 100 percent BlueJazz Nov 2013 #241
what percent of the prostituted women out there are graduate students paying for tuition? geek tragedy Nov 2013 #193
Somebody should have to sell their body for education and housing marions ghost Nov 2013 #356
many people have sex without any other commitment without paying for it JI7 Nov 2013 #9
Again, masturbation is a more sanitary option Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #50
The poster was pointing out that some people chose not to try to find bluestate10 Nov 2013 #144
Many others do though, regardless of how one rationalizes it.. LanternWaste Nov 2013 #120
yes. i wont be told that i am not allowed to see, how pathetic the person is that pays to use seabeyond Nov 2013 #127
A lot of successful people chose to buy sex instead of date or get married. bluestate10 Nov 2013 #5
I stand by the statement Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #37
OMG! LMAO!!! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2013 #104
This thread has me in stitches, too 1000words Nov 2013 #107
Always nice to make someone laugh Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #119
Your mind is frozen in the mode that the seller is an unwilling bluestate10 Nov 2013 #150
You aren't necessarily paying for the sex LittleBlue Nov 2013 #20
No, masturbation is the option Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #30
Masturbation doesn't always involve lawyers jberryhill Nov 2013 #35
Masturbation would also solve world over population too. How is that bluestate10 Nov 2013 #159
I understand perfectly well what "not just" means Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #213
Call me crazy, but I'm not sure masturbation needs any PR. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #477
You made a correct observation. Don't expect it to go over with some of bluestate10 Nov 2013 #153
yes. a man that pays to use a womans body as a cum receptor is a loser. correct. married or seabeyond Nov 2013 #163
It's like the Rick Santorum forum meets DU LittleBlue Nov 2013 #207
right, cause being concerned for our women and children, not so much the mans entitlement, makes seabeyond Nov 2013 #230
This is the 21st century LittleBlue Nov 2013 #234
wtf??? what does that have to do with your accusation and my reply? seabeyond Nov 2013 #236
I'm not looking to convince you LittleBlue Nov 2013 #243
ah, hysteria, prudish, beyond rational. anymore little sexist jabs as you are proving just how seabeyond Nov 2013 #252
I thought the conflation of random hookups by mutual consent with coersion by financial means redqueen Nov 2013 #256
and if that fails, just throw out a bunch of sexist slurs and bring up a whole new topic. lol. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #260
I'm coerced into going to work every day LittleBlue Nov 2013 #266
Do you get raped at work? redqueen Nov 2013 #271
I don't because I'm fortunate enough to not make that decision LittleBlue Nov 2013 #278
In those other, legitimate jobs, it is accidents which cause the injuries. redqueen Nov 2013 #282
The epidemic of rape in the military is an accident? LittleBlue Nov 2013 #287
Yes, thank you, that is one I forgot. The military is the closest comparison. redqueen Nov 2013 #289
The right-wingers cite God, my soul will be damned LittleBlue Nov 2013 #262
ah, back to original topic? k. concerned with women and children, not male entitlement is rw, how? seabeyond Nov 2013 #263
If you have issues in your relationship, you deal with them like an adult alarimer Nov 2013 #349
Such broad brush generalizations are pathetic. pintobean Nov 2013 #38
Uh, no Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #48
A scenario? pintobean Nov 2013 #55
I never said anything to the contrary Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #82
So you knew men over 30+ years who solicited prostitutes? That is an astounding bluestate10 Nov 2013 #167
I said "paid for sex" Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #211
Strippers don't provide sex. They provide nudity. EOTE Nov 2013 #318
And men only go to strip clubs to appreciate Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #342
Of course they get aroused. EOTE Nov 2013 #344
What are lapdances then? Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #346
A woman grinding on a man's lap? EOTE Nov 2013 #347
Ah, so you define sex only as intercourse Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #352
As do most dictionaries. EOTE Nov 2013 #353
Gosh the very FIRST dictionary I go to Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #354
Ahh, so kissing is sex. EOTE Nov 2013 #355
If sexually motivated, yes it is Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #358
So your definition is tautological and therefore worthless EOTE Nov 2013 #359
Again, you cited the dictionary as an authority Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #364
You provided your own definition. EOTE Nov 2013 #365
I didn't invent the dictionary entry Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #366
Well again, you either are calling the millions of people who have had massages pathetic... EOTE Nov 2013 #367
intent of a massage is to get you aroused? eeek. glad i am not your masseuse. seabeyond Nov 2013 #368
I said nothing about getting aroused. EOTE Nov 2013 #369
Oops, Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #376
Yeah, I get touchy whenever I see idiots making broad brush statements EOTE Nov 2013 #379
To answer your question: Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #373
You didn't answer my question, you didn't even attempt to answer my question. EOTE Nov 2013 #375
I said, Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #377
Yeah, I heard that part. What I didn't hear was any attempt to provide anything even remotely EOTE Nov 2013 #378
Have you ever been to a burlesque show? Marr Nov 2013 #322
Ugh, burlesque. Privileged middle-class women dipping a toe in the sex industry. redqueen Nov 2013 #330
What's offensive is your casual bigotry. /nt Marr Nov 2013 #370
LMAO, bigotry? What are you talking about? redqueen Nov 2013 #374
You said nothing about patriarchy, just the "Privileged middle-class women dipping a toe in the sex EOTE Nov 2013 #380
Right, because what could patriarchy possibly have to do BainsBane Nov 2013 #405
Again, she said nothing about the patriarchy (although I'm sure that would have been a hoot). EOTE Nov 2013 #434
Your dislike is about as reality based as a some Klansman's rants about minorities. Marr Nov 2013 #382
No, it isn't. Words have meanings. redqueen Nov 2013 #383
There are dictionaries available online if you don't own one. Marr Nov 2013 #385
Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #386
Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #387
You were saying something about class. Marr Nov 2013 #389
no. it is a reality. that is what burlesque is. you have an issue with it, address burlesque. seabeyond Nov 2013 #390
She was not "spot on", she was speaking out of her ass, from simple prejudice. Marr Nov 2013 #392
more insults, lol. look at your posts. and then you accuse others of insults? what a fuckin joke. seabeyond Nov 2013 #397
you are really a trip in ugly. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #391
Are you at all troubled by the fact that you and your friend here resort to playground insults Marr Nov 2013 #393
you like her to KKK, bigot, and all kinds of ugly. are you saying you are protected from being seabeyond Nov 2013 #396
Not a personal attack at all-- the comparison was apt. Marr Nov 2013 #400
no. it was not apt. KKK KILL. are you fuckin serious. she is talkin about the privilege class. seabeyond Nov 2013 #401
So anyone who disagrees with you is a bigot? BainsBane Nov 2013 #404
No, but anyone who'll express scorn for a profession merely because of the class and gender of those EOTE Nov 2013 #445
You would be wrong BainsBane Nov 2013 #446
Oh, I see. So only white people can be bigots now. EOTE Nov 2013 #447
Tell me precisely where I said that? BainsBane Nov 2013 #448
I said that the poster is a bigot for attacking people for their class and profession. EOTE Nov 2013 #451
You are not right BainsBane Nov 2013 #453
I understand her very bigoted point. It was quite apparent by reading it. EOTE Nov 2013 #455
Wow, not even close. BainsBane Nov 2013 #458
Why can't they just leave the sex industry to those who founded it? seabeyond Nov 2013 #459
Oh, wait. I misunderstood your previous remark BainsBane Nov 2013 #450
Nope, you're confused again. EOTE Nov 2013 #452
What would you call someone who expresses BainsBane Nov 2013 #454
Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #456
What exactly am I reveling in? BainsBane Nov 2013 #457
No, I haven't Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #340
Silly. /nt Marr Nov 2013 #371
So sex doesn't even require physical contact now. EOTE Nov 2013 #440
I love how you are trying to paint me as a sexual prude Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #441
Uhhh, you are the one who said that sex doesn't require physical contact. EOTE Nov 2013 #442
"Good day, sir!" doesn't automatically put an end to a conversation. Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #443
Again, you don't seem to be familiar with how this works. EOTE Nov 2013 #444
Ah, a textbook example of my argument Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #49
You are grotesque. nt. sibelian Nov 2013 #57
I am "grotesque" Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #80
I have two questions for you. redqueen Nov 2013 #59
I have one question for you. sibelian Nov 2013 #62
Hmmm... Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #83
exactly redq. they sit here and cheer treating women as a fuck. so funny, as they probably do not seabeyond Nov 2013 #72
Yep, it is easy to laugh... it is true it's pathetic. But it's also sad. redqueen Nov 2013 #84
but they forget the numbers. a mere 13% of men are reduced to paying for a fuck. what does it make seabeyond Nov 2013 #85
Like Hugh Grant? Marr Nov 2013 #138
ya. like hugh grant and even he knew how pathetic he was. oh charlie sheen. seabeyond Nov 2013 #140
No, we don't know that. That's my point. Marr Nov 2013 #142
right. these women are ultra horney, just want sex and is turned on by every guy not to mention, seabeyond Nov 2013 #145
I don't understad your comment. Marr Nov 2013 #151
That's a good thing. EOTE Nov 2013 #319
I never understand the hostility from that person. Marr Nov 2013 #321
When one is so poorly able to express his/herself, insults are easy to go to. EOTE Nov 2013 #325
The two people that I know solicited weren't scummy. bluestate10 Nov 2013 #175
No, but a five minute conversation Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #218
Sadly no Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #76
Thanks. redqueen Nov 2013 #89
Right on time... RetroLounge Nov 2013 #86
With the grumpy old men in the balcony saying the exact same things to her every time... LanternWaste Nov 2013 #122
Agreed. One side taunts, the other falls for it every time, in both directions. RetroLounge Nov 2013 #410
i guess your post is an example how to make du a more civil place? but then, i guess i am not seabeyond Nov 2013 #421
So Says the poster-child for word salads RetroLounge Nov 2013 #435
You could not understand those two simple sentences? Hm seabeyond Nov 2013 #437
Good thing you can edit now, huh? RetroLounge Nov 2013 #463
and thank you for proving my point. RetroLounge Nov 2013 #436
Outrage? Proving your point? Because I asked a question... seabeyond Nov 2013 #438
I read this entire thread. RetroLounge Nov 2013 #465
LOL!!! Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #439
I'm sorry, who are you? RetroLounge Nov 2013 #464
Brilliant riposte! Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #466
Aw, aren't you a sweetie? RetroLounge Nov 2013 #481
Ugh. sibelian Nov 2013 #56
As Charlie Sheen said "I am not paying women for sex... Drahthaardogs Nov 2013 #71
He is still paying for sex Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #77
oh ya, and if that is not the man to emulate. a man that is living in hell. but hey, lets raise seabeyond Nov 2013 #88
The word is emulate Drahthaardogs Nov 2013 #196
yes. it is easy for a man to laugh at a sexist joke. and for a white to laugh at a racist joke. seabeyond Nov 2013 #212
You are welcome Drahthaardogs Nov 2013 #220
Oh goodness, you didn't tell us you had been to geek tragedy Nov 2013 #313
pretty much how i felt. so tired of the.... but, europe. seabeyond Nov 2013 #315
! redqueen Nov 2013 #334
you need another hero. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #100
Charlie Sheen is probably paying them not to press charges. redqueen Nov 2013 #246
I agree that it's pathetic. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #87
What, Amy Farah Fowler said "no"? Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #126
Amy and I have the perfect relationship, with none of that icky bodily fluid stuff. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #156
*snort* Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #215
I suppose you think sex with a random woman at a bar is pathetic? Or with a women who may provide Proles Nov 2013 #95
Nope, not at all Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #125
LOL, care for each other cracks me up! nt Logical Nov 2013 #229
You don't pay someone to have sex with you. GliderGuider Nov 2013 #217
Already stated and answered Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #223
I know - I saw that after I'd posted. GliderGuider Nov 2013 #231
Agreed Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #235
LOL, says someone who has not spent two minutes thinking about... Logical Nov 2013 #228
Oh, I have spent many a time thinking about the whys Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #237
Nice try! nt Logical Nov 2013 #238
Well, Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #240
You are a shallow off thre cuff comedian! Nothing more. Nt Logical Nov 2013 #242
A shallow off the cuff comedian who Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #244
I disagree completely KentuckyWoman Nov 2013 #245
When you lack of social skills is such Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #251
purchasing sex has nothing to with social skills KentuckyWoman Nov 2013 #425
Yes, it does Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #426
OK so explain to me. KentuckyWoman Nov 2013 #427
Are you seriously arguing that the woman you describe is the typical client BainsBane Nov 2013 #428
Is her husband aware she Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #431
yes he is and supports it. KentuckyWoman Nov 2013 #472
What if you're disfigured? KansDem Nov 2013 #302
I have stated in other posts that there are narrow, rare Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #305
what does a woman do if she is disfigured? where is the BIG push for the woman that does not get seabeyond Nov 2013 #306
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #308
Although this thread is about men and sex... KansDem Nov 2013 #320
Maybe there *should* be more outlets available for such women... Just saying... nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #479
Strange... Glassunion Nov 2013 #4
I thought so too, I believe the common factor in these threads.... Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #45
Sex is never free Glassunion Nov 2013 #61
What does that mean?...nt Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #66
You pay for it one way or another. Glassunion Nov 2013 #67
That's because younger men are better about gender equality than older ones. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #8
Or maybe younger men are too foolish and inexperienced to make an educated choice. (WOW ... 11 Bravo Nov 2013 #29
possibly, but it's pretty clear the country has improved geek tragedy Nov 2013 #41
OK, but be aware that there are some old farts that have been ... 11 Bravo Nov 2013 #51
Fully recognized, and apologies for any offense caused. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #54
Would you consider that these vehemently pro-woman old farts redqueen Nov 2013 #64
I can only speak for myself. When I was 19 I paid for sex with a young woman ... 11 Bravo Nov 2013 #328
Hell, maybe they're short of money. What happened to the all hallowed money trail? Eleanors38 Nov 2013 #281
One way or another, many men still pay for sex. hughee99 Nov 2013 #12
So what are you saying? This is a typical misogynest comment. A dinner? seabeyond Nov 2013 #19
Yes, a typical misogynist comment... hughee99 Nov 2013 #22
your statement: "Men do things they don't want to do in hopes of getting sex." Skittles Nov 2013 #26
Sex is, of course, shared, but in many relationships one partner has much more control hughee99 Nov 2013 #33
yet when women behave the way men wished they did Skittles Nov 2013 #36
Not by those men I know who put in this effort hughee99 Nov 2013 #40
the women YOU BUY FROM Skittles Nov 2013 #58
ya.... hey skittles seabeyond Nov 2013 #69
Huh hughee99 Nov 2013 #73
... and I quote ... Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #103
I don't think that's it. hughee99 Nov 2013 #112
DAMN STRAIGHT I AM Skittles Nov 2013 #114
lulz, on the chili...nt Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #158
I assure you I comprehend just FINE Skittles Nov 2013 #113
I figured you did, which is why I'm confused by your response. hughee99 Nov 2013 #117
because you are "paying" one way of the other. one you are "paying" to not Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #131
So are you suggesting that people DON'T do something especially nice for their spouses hughee99 Nov 2013 #137
nah. i like sex. as i am all over him as much as he is all over me. no.... i was not giving seabeyond Nov 2013 #141
It sounds great, and healthy. hughee99 Nov 2013 #154
sigh... seabeyond Nov 2013 #164
Sorry, it's not my intention to make anyone feel bad. hughee99 Nov 2013 #171
You are obtuse, possibly, deliberately so. It is neither charming nor endearing. I suggest nothing - Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #222
+1 redqueen Nov 2013 #258
My goal isn't to be charming or endearing. hughee99 Nov 2013 #291
you need links and statistics to back your assertions. ugh. and gross. you live in a Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #324
So if I understand correctly, hughee99 Nov 2013 #326
If you think sex between committed partners is a transaction, I feel sorry for you. n/t MadrasT Nov 2013 #327
An excellent non-response to the question I posed. hughee99 Nov 2013 #329
I feel sorry for his partner, too. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #338
You keep moving the goalposts. That is not what you said above. I believe you and I are done here. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #337
How is it different from what I said above? hughee99 Nov 2013 #339
Please, go back and reread your posts and see how you keep changing your parameters. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #343
I've read my posts. I know what they say, since I wrote them. hughee99 Nov 2013 #348
Listen treat your wife like a human being and do nice things for her boston bean Nov 2013 #408
The motivation for doing something and the consequences from it aren't the same thing. hughee99 Nov 2013 #412
We do nice things for eachother because we love one another. boston bean Nov 2013 #413
People do nice things for their spouse because they love and appreciate them, hughee99 Nov 2013 #415
So we've moved from sex to love and appreciation are the "reward"? boston bean Nov 2013 #416
Actually, I was there about a half dozen posts ago. hughee99 Nov 2013 #417
Go back and read your first post in this sub thread. boston bean Nov 2013 #418
Ah, well, have a nice day. hughee99 Nov 2013 #419
Throughout the thread you have stated that things are done for rewards or for paying for it in boston bean Nov 2013 #420
I actually stated that things are done with the HOPE of a reward, hughee99 Nov 2013 #422
And I'm telling you have it backwards. Stop doing that. You'll be much happier. boston bean Nov 2013 #423
I understand, you're suggesting I do things hughee99 Nov 2013 #424
no, they are called Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #53
"Men do things they don't want to do in hopes of getting sex." MissMillie Nov 2013 #310
I agree, I didn't intend to imply it was hughee99 Nov 2013 #316
Doing things you don't want to do is wrong. JVS Nov 2013 #314
Translation Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #31
Misandry! geek tragedy Nov 2013 #43
+1 1000words Nov 2013 #44
Exactly. It's a joke at MEN'S expense. Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #52
It's hard to keep up BainsBane Nov 2013 #70
OMG... it is such a whine,. lordy. this is a funny thread. and it should not be. but seabeyond Nov 2013 #75
kind of like this BainsBane Nov 2013 #136
Women love sex and desire it but as a general rule do not have the same intense sex drive tc45a Nov 2013 #134
i know men with low sex drives and women with high. it is conditioning that we give to men that seabeyond Nov 2013 #170
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #187
yes. cause we say it over and over and over and over and over again. even if a man seabeyond Nov 2013 #189
The key phrase in the study: LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #194
Then why does Viagra exist? Get men out geek tragedy Nov 2013 #311
Misandry for you is daring to point out sexism BainsBane Nov 2013 #68
!!!!!! Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #74
+1 LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #331
ok. wht i get for this is if i do not honor, apprecaite, validate the 17% men that buy women to seabeyond Nov 2013 #81
That means prices are coming down! Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #14
The invisible hand ... job? 1000words Nov 2013 #15
Okay..you win the thread. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #152
Deadbeats! n/t sl8 Nov 2013 #16
Does the study say anything about men having LESS sex? In Japan men more and more are going uponit7771 Nov 2013 #17
Few men paid for it in the first place. 17% is a small part of the whole seabeyond Nov 2013 #18
yet there's guys who claim they have "no other choice" Skittles Nov 2013 #60
they probably do not. but then there are women that arent getting any either. we just do not sell seabeyond Nov 2013 #63
It's a self reported number... so it's likely somewhat deflated from reality. Agschmid Nov 2013 #92
maybe, or maybe not. one has to wonder why there is such an effort to inflate the number for more seabeyond Nov 2013 #96
Odd that this drop in men paying for sex coincides with the explosion of internet porn Fumesucker Nov 2013 #21
or more likely the gains women have made in society JI7 Nov 2013 #24
Personally I'm a coincidence theorist n/t Fumesucker Nov 2013 #25
Nah. I give it to porn. Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #34
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #99
Less houses of prostitution also enters into the equation tc45a Nov 2013 #121
For a moment I thought you said "hours." Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #124
Or, more likely, the increased emphasis the cops have put on prostitution lately jmowreader Nov 2013 #157
I would think social networking may also play a role in this. hughee99 Nov 2013 #27
Yup. Agschmid Nov 2013 #94
Men are paying for cam girls now Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #28
Just the dumb ones Fumesucker Nov 2013 #32
No, they're even paying for the smart cam girls JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2013 #39
Now you've done it. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #42
LOL! RetroLounge Nov 2013 #91
And the prevalence of Android/iPhone apps which allow you to meet up for free sex. Agschmid Nov 2013 #93
i say its due to the ease of finding someone who also wants sex online loli phabay Nov 2013 #201
I'll bow to the voice of experience Fumesucker Nov 2013 #295
think of it like sports, sometimes you just want a beer and highlights on tv loli phabay Nov 2013 #312
good gopiscrap Nov 2013 #46
Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #65
Since you just made that up.. nothing MattBaggins Nov 2013 #78
Men: single handedly-driving up the pay gap. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #101
Post was self deleted B Calm Nov 2013 #79
ah, maybe they ought to just give it to the men for free. why the fuck would they need to eat, seabeyond Nov 2013 #90
Who says they're being "used" if they agree to the act consensually? His was a joke by the way. /nt Proles Nov 2013 #97
ya, right cause the women are not desperate as it is. really, they are just horney and want the seabeyond Nov 2013 #98
You seem to be describing street prostitution, which is indeed exploitative. Proles Nov 2013 #106
You are bringing much needed sanity to this thread 1000words Nov 2013 #110
no. he tries to wrap it up in a pretty bow so others can feel good. there is nothing pretty about, seabeyond Nov 2013 #166
ya, do you know how many of thsoe women are sex slaves doing acts against their will cause there is seabeyond Nov 2013 #111
NOBODY chooses to be used as a human garbage can. duffyduff Nov 2013 #116
Whenever I see references to "human toilet". "human garbage can", etc. Bonobo Nov 2013 #283
So if someone doesn't make you happy by pretending that stuff doesn't exist BainsBane Nov 2013 #297
My opinion is as I stated it. Bonobo Nov 2013 #299
That isn't what you said BainsBane Nov 2013 #300
No, sorry, that is your interpretation. Bonobo Nov 2013 #301
he is treating her as a thing to use. are you really suggesting that a man that pays a woman to use seabeyond Nov 2013 #307
Your post contains entirely too much sanity. LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #169
There you go ....... and this is exactly why women have fought to have the polly7 Nov 2013 #183
Like working at McDonalds is a choice BainsBane Nov 2013 #298
It isn't "consent" when people prostitute themselves because they HAVE to. duffyduff Nov 2013 #115
Oh good. So either they're raping more... liberalmuse Nov 2013 #102
rape is not really about sex and i really doubt this is about plastics La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #108
free internet pr0n. KG Nov 2013 #105
If true, good. Prostitution is a human rights violation. n/t duffyduff Nov 2013 #109
I'm surprised no one has mentioned an obvious factor for this trend Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #118
ya. cause we are all concerned about the poor shmuck woman that isnt getting any. wait, she doesnt seabeyond Nov 2013 #128
The vast majority of arrests for solicitation are of men Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #129
i am saying the pathetic fools that have to buy a womans body to use is considered the "poor shmuck" seabeyond Nov 2013 #133
Nearly all women can get sex if they really want it tc45a Nov 2013 #149
you are full of crap. but men like to whine this so they can make their excuses to rape and pay.... seabeyond Nov 2013 #168
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because it is a very small group of men that buy a woman to use. which was my first point. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #186
Yes, and it looks like more and more are becoming willing to pay for it, also. polly7 Nov 2013 #323
the study also showed... Abukhatar Nov 2013 #123
Everytime I read the subject line, I misread it to say boston bean Nov 2013 #130
*snort* LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #160
I rarely see street prostitutes anymore madville Nov 2013 #132
Interested to see what some people here think of this. Bonobo Nov 2013 #135
Don't confuse the black and white broad-brushers, Bonobo 1000words Nov 2013 #146
pot, kettle BainsBane Nov 2013 #148
I have a family member who uses a sexual surrogate. I will not judge them, since msanthrope Nov 2013 #162
We're bartering for it TlalocW Nov 2013 #155
... LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #165
Nope.. Supposed to be PETA... opiate69 Nov 2013 #191
The crossover between "WOMEN'S CHOICE!!!" in the abortion threads LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #195
True that.. opiate69 Nov 2013 #198
Stunning hypocrisy 1000words Nov 2013 #202
I almost just stayed out of the thread completely. LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #267
I hear ya.. opiate69 Nov 2013 #272
I know, that's the first thing I think of when I see these threads. polly7 Nov 2013 #210
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That's great! polly7 Nov 2013 #232
Yeah, but... opiate69 Nov 2013 #247
Good to see you too, opiate! polly7 Nov 2013 #248
You dropped your twizzler?? opiate69 Nov 2013 #254
LOL! polly7 Nov 2013 #255
Lol.. When our dogs were still with us, they were completely oblivious... opiate69 Nov 2013 #257
LOL. I'd really like if my dog did that about now ....... he's watches every bite. polly7 Nov 2013 #261
My wife wants a big dog (our last two were a pom and a shih-tzu)... opiate69 Nov 2013 #265
Aw, I see the problem. polly7 Nov 2013 #273
Thanks.. I think we're gonna compromise on something like a decent sized pug lol opiate69 Nov 2013 #274
Great choice. Pugs are adorable! nt. polly7 Nov 2013 #275
Yup.. And, our landlady just so happens to breed them (although...) opiate69 Nov 2013 #276
Well that is handy, if you choose to do so! polly7 Nov 2013 #277
It's not really consent! Because, well, LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #264
Yup..and now, apparently money is a "coercive factor" as well... opiate69 Nov 2013 #268
Harumph!!!! polly7 Nov 2013 #269
Well, missy, the patriarchy done took over your mind. You are on the side of msanthrope Nov 2013 #335
Yup. Abortion has NOTHING to do with morality, but... Bonobo Nov 2013 #280
I like the almost quantum mechanical effect whereby a woman has choice and self-determination right Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #286
Sex Worker's Epilepsy LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #296
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IKR? The lies people will tell themselves... LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #360
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No, it was a snark LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #388
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OK, then, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for a moment LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #460
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You're welcome to come up with your own figures LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #462
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It was never a serious conversation LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #469
December is my favorite month: Moon Bombing! Ah the memories..... neverforget Nov 2013 #209
Epic thread. 1000words Nov 2013 #249
Ahh.. The good old days... opiate69 Nov 2013 #259
omega minimo RainDog Nov 2013 #270
That thread wins DU. It's awesome on so many levels! neverforget Nov 2013 #284
iteration? Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #285
I can't remember the other versions that were here RainDog Nov 2013 #290
"at least it's an ethos" Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #292
speaking of paying for sex RainDog Nov 2013 #293
Jesus Christ on a thermonuclear pogo stick. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #294
Faye Gunderson RainDog Nov 2013 #304
Yeah, that I spotted right away, at least. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #372
LOL RainDog Nov 2013 #429
Justin didn't get the memo Egnever Nov 2013 #172
Damn there goes my back up plan Evergreen Emerald Nov 2013 #178
I was curious .......... polly7 Nov 2013 #203
Legalize it. Regulate it. Tax it. erodriguez Nov 2013 #208
Groucho Marx RandySF Nov 2013 #279
I think two factors are at play here RandySF Nov 2013 #288
We all pay for sex MissMillie Nov 2013 #309
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That wasn't sex MissMillie Nov 2013 #333
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no we do not. this is so stupid, not you, but this idea. no. seabeyond Nov 2013 #341
except for completely anonymous sexual interactions where no money changes hands.... MissMillie Nov 2013 #345
that is true with every action in life. action/reaction. and ew do not say we are "paying" for it. seabeyond Nov 2013 #361
I have no problem saying "paying for it" with all the other stuff too MissMillie Nov 2013 #362
ya. i think now what i am hearing is how i can refer to it as... seabeyond Nov 2013 #363
These guys should consider that if all women are prostitutes, that means all men are johns. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #395
there is certainly a power difference in the two roles. and that is why men, SOME men are so seabeyond Nov 2013 #399
I think it's the illusion of having power over someone, as much as the reality. Hence the insecurity nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #402
interesting. and that is taking it a step further. what ego says to them, and what seabeyond Nov 2013 #403
Speaking for myself, I really hate the feeling of being helpless, powerless. In any way. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #409
"Where has this come from?" Capitalism, I suppose... nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #394
Bad economy? SoCalDem Nov 2013 #317
I call BS. A report on the number of massage parlours shows that flamingdem Nov 2013 #350
I just want everybody to know ..... oldhippie Nov 2013 #357
they certainly have BainsBane Nov 2013 #406
This whole industry should be decriminalized. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #381
Great post. Selling sex, at the very least, should be totally decriminalized, for the reasons nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #398
I'm not sure what the good points are Major Nikon Nov 2013 #470
Well, I could be wrong, but from what I've read it seems like low-level street prostitution nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #473
It was reduced for a few years Major Nikon Nov 2013 #475
Then it would seem a more nuanced approach is needed... nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #478
The problem is that in places where that has happened BainsBane Nov 2013 #407
Yeah, I've seen those statistics. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #411
There really is no simple, easy solution. But the "Swedish model" may be the lesser evil in the end. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #474
Not decriminalization. LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #414
The UN agrees Major Nikon Nov 2013 #471
Every time I read that subject line, I crack up. Iggo Nov 2013 #430
Seriously, men shouldn't be paying for sex. In_The_Wind Nov 2013 #432
Still funny! Iggo Nov 2013 #449
I think this article should be rewritten as a math story problem. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #476
If I were a math guy, I'd go for it. But I always did better in the written subjects. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #480
I'm totally not a math guy. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #482
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