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Kelvin Mace

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211. I said "paid for sex"

Tue Nov 5, 2013, 12:07 AM

Nov 2013

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that would include strippers. If you have to pay to see a naked woman, then that is pretty sad.

And yes, I listened to the insipid juvenile bragging and posturing for years.

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Fewer men are paying for sex, survey suggests [View all] Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 OP

It aint easy out there ... what's a pimp to do? 1000words Nov 2013 #1

Pretty pathetic when you have to pay someone to have sex with you Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #2

actually it's not when you think about it dlwickham Nov 2013 #3

You're correct. nt bluestate10 Nov 2013 #6

Yes, it allows them to avoid having to treat the other person like a human being nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #7

Plenty of folks in "committed" relationships treating each other like shit 1000words Nov 2013 #10

Obviously that is bad. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #11

Indeed. 1000words Nov 2013 #13

no it doesn't , one is dehumanizing in itself JI7 Nov 2013 #23

Prostitution is inherently that way relationships aren't nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #47

If a man or woman freely choses to sell sex, how is that "inherently" bluestate10 Nov 2013 #139

because simply, the vast majority are not "freely", they are desperate. and desperate is being used seabeyond Nov 2013 #143

This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #147

78-92% of prostitute were raped as children. yes. and these are the people being used. so making seabeyond Nov 2013 #161

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #173

really, you talk about the vast majority in desperate situation being used in an ugly manner seabeyond Nov 2013 #174

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Do we have a right to limit pimps from forcing women into sexual slavery? uppityperson Nov 2013 #177

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uh. huh. uppityperson Nov 2013 #180

yes. legalize prostitution. make it illegal to buy and pimp. works for sweden and other seabeyond Nov 2013 #184

This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #185

I know a woman in the "industry" and she does very well. 1000words Nov 2013 #188

This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #190

That's why it should be legal and regulated 1000words Nov 2013 #199

This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #200

you know about the dutch model, right? that would be prostitution is legal. the jon and pimp go to seabeyond Nov 2013 #216

Precisely why I used it as a viable model 1000words Nov 2013 #219

then you are for the pimp and jon going to jail? i am glad you are informed. thanks. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #226

She's referring to the Swedish, not Dutch, model LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #233

Ah ... The Dutch have tweaked their system, as well. I took the poster's data at face value. 1000words Nov 2013 #239

this is an article that totally counters what is said. seabeyond Nov 2013 #250

It's what a lot of workers want- basic human rights like any other job. LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #253

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This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #205

Good question 1000words Nov 2013 #214

Looks like that loser took a trip to Tombstone....hope he enjoys his pizza. nt MADem Nov 2013 #351

you might educate yourself. cause there are a lot of hurt, desperate woman out there, and you post seabeyond Nov 2013 #181

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who are you? seabeyond Nov 2013 #197

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This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #221

you say the majority of prostitutes are desperate or sex slaves or .... but what about the few seabeyond Nov 2013 #224

This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #227

The "47%" figure is garbage Major Nikon Nov 2013 #467

I agree 100 percent BlueJazz Nov 2013 #241

what percent of the prostituted women out there are graduate students paying for tuition? geek tragedy Nov 2013 #193

Somebody should have to sell their body for education and housing marions ghost Nov 2013 #356

many people have sex without any other commitment without paying for it JI7 Nov 2013 #9

Again, masturbation is a more sanitary option Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #50

The poster was pointing out that some people chose not to try to find bluestate10 Nov 2013 #144

Many others do though, regardless of how one rationalizes it.. LanternWaste Nov 2013 #120

yes. i wont be told that i am not allowed to see, how pathetic the person is that pays to use seabeyond Nov 2013 #127

A lot of successful people chose to buy sex instead of date or get married. bluestate10 Nov 2013 #5

I stand by the statement Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #37

OMG! LMAO!!! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2013 #104

This thread has me in stitches, too 1000words Nov 2013 #107

Always nice to make someone laugh Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #119

Your mind is frozen in the mode that the seller is an unwilling bluestate10 Nov 2013 #150

You aren't necessarily paying for the sex LittleBlue Nov 2013 #20

No, masturbation is the option Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #30

Masturbation doesn't always involve lawyers jberryhill Nov 2013 #35

Masturbation would also solve world over population too. How is that bluestate10 Nov 2013 #159

I understand perfectly well what "not just" means Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #213

Call me crazy, but I'm not sure masturbation needs any PR. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #477

You made a correct observation. Don't expect it to go over with some of bluestate10 Nov 2013 #153

yes. a man that pays to use a womans body as a cum receptor is a loser. correct. married or seabeyond Nov 2013 #163

It's like the Rick Santorum forum meets DU LittleBlue Nov 2013 #207

right, cause being concerned for our women and children, not so much the mans entitlement, makes seabeyond Nov 2013 #230

This is the 21st century LittleBlue Nov 2013 #234

wtf??? what does that have to do with your accusation and my reply? seabeyond Nov 2013 #236

I'm not looking to convince you LittleBlue Nov 2013 #243

ah, hysteria, prudish, beyond rational. anymore little sexist jabs as you are proving just how seabeyond Nov 2013 #252

I thought the conflation of random hookups by mutual consent with coersion by financial means redqueen Nov 2013 #256

and if that fails, just throw out a bunch of sexist slurs and bring up a whole new topic. lol. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #260

I'm coerced into going to work every day LittleBlue Nov 2013 #266

Do you get raped at work? redqueen Nov 2013 #271

I don't because I'm fortunate enough to not make that decision LittleBlue Nov 2013 #278

In those other, legitimate jobs, it is accidents which cause the injuries. redqueen Nov 2013 #282

The epidemic of rape in the military is an accident? LittleBlue Nov 2013 #287

Yes, thank you, that is one I forgot. The military is the closest comparison. redqueen Nov 2013 #289

The right-wingers cite God, my soul will be damned LittleBlue Nov 2013 #262

ah, back to original topic? k. concerned with women and children, not male entitlement is rw, how? seabeyond Nov 2013 #263

If you have issues in your relationship, you deal with them like an adult alarimer Nov 2013 #349

Such broad brush generalizations are pathetic. pintobean Nov 2013 #38

Uh, no Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #48

A scenario? pintobean Nov 2013 #55

I never said anything to the contrary Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #82

So you knew men over 30+ years who solicited prostitutes? That is an astounding bluestate10 Nov 2013 #167

I said "paid for sex" Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #211

Strippers don't provide sex. They provide nudity. EOTE Nov 2013 #318

And men only go to strip clubs to appreciate Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #342

Of course they get aroused. EOTE Nov 2013 #344

What are lapdances then? Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #346

A woman grinding on a man's lap? EOTE Nov 2013 #347

Ah, so you define sex only as intercourse Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #352

As do most dictionaries. EOTE Nov 2013 #353

Gosh the very FIRST dictionary I go to Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #354

Ahh, so kissing is sex. EOTE Nov 2013 #355

If sexually motivated, yes it is Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #358

So your definition is tautological and therefore worthless EOTE Nov 2013 #359

Again, you cited the dictionary as an authority Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #364

You provided your own definition. EOTE Nov 2013 #365

I didn't invent the dictionary entry Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #366

Well again, you either are calling the millions of people who have had massages pathetic... EOTE Nov 2013 #367

intent of a massage is to get you aroused? eeek. glad i am not your masseuse. seabeyond Nov 2013 #368

I said nothing about getting aroused. EOTE Nov 2013 #369

Oops, Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #376

Yeah, I get touchy whenever I see idiots making broad brush statements EOTE Nov 2013 #379

To answer your question: Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #373

You didn't answer my question, you didn't even attempt to answer my question. EOTE Nov 2013 #375

I said, Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #377

Yeah, I heard that part. What I didn't hear was any attempt to provide anything even remotely EOTE Nov 2013 #378

Have you ever been to a burlesque show? Marr Nov 2013 #322

Ugh, burlesque. Privileged middle-class women dipping a toe in the sex industry. redqueen Nov 2013 #330

What's offensive is your casual bigotry. /nt Marr Nov 2013 #370

LMAO, bigotry? What are you talking about? redqueen Nov 2013 #374

You said nothing about patriarchy, just the "Privileged middle-class women dipping a toe in the sex EOTE Nov 2013 #380

Right, because what could patriarchy possibly have to do BainsBane Nov 2013 #405

Again, she said nothing about the patriarchy (although I'm sure that would have been a hoot). EOTE Nov 2013 #434

Your dislike is about as reality based as a some Klansman's rants about minorities. Marr Nov 2013 #382

No, it isn't. Words have meanings. redqueen Nov 2013 #383

There are dictionaries available online if you don't own one. Marr Nov 2013 #385

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You were saying something about class. Marr Nov 2013 #389

no. it is a reality. that is what burlesque is. you have an issue with it, address burlesque. seabeyond Nov 2013 #390

She was not "spot on", she was speaking out of her ass, from simple prejudice. Marr Nov 2013 #392

more insults, lol. look at your posts. and then you accuse others of insults? what a fuckin joke. seabeyond Nov 2013 #397

you are really a trip in ugly. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #391

Are you at all troubled by the fact that you and your friend here resort to playground insults Marr Nov 2013 #393

you like her to KKK, bigot, and all kinds of ugly. are you saying you are protected from being seabeyond Nov 2013 #396

Not a personal attack at all-- the comparison was apt. Marr Nov 2013 #400

no. it was not apt. KKK KILL. are you fuckin serious. she is talkin about the privilege class. seabeyond Nov 2013 #401

So anyone who disagrees with you is a bigot? BainsBane Nov 2013 #404

No, but anyone who'll express scorn for a profession merely because of the class and gender of those EOTE Nov 2013 #445

You would be wrong BainsBane Nov 2013 #446

Oh, I see. So only white people can be bigots now. EOTE Nov 2013 #447

Tell me precisely where I said that? BainsBane Nov 2013 #448

I said that the poster is a bigot for attacking people for their class and profession. EOTE Nov 2013 #451

You are not right BainsBane Nov 2013 #453

I understand her very bigoted point. It was quite apparent by reading it. EOTE Nov 2013 #455

Wow, not even close. BainsBane Nov 2013 #458

Why can't they just leave the sex industry to those who founded it? seabeyond Nov 2013 #459

Oh, wait. I misunderstood your previous remark BainsBane Nov 2013 #450

Nope, you're confused again. EOTE Nov 2013 #452

What would you call someone who expresses BainsBane Nov 2013 #454

Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #456

What exactly am I reveling in? BainsBane Nov 2013 #457

No, I haven't Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #340

Silly. /nt Marr Nov 2013 #371

So sex doesn't even require physical contact now. EOTE Nov 2013 #440

I love how you are trying to paint me as a sexual prude Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #441

Uhhh, you are the one who said that sex doesn't require physical contact. EOTE Nov 2013 #442

"Good day, sir!" doesn't automatically put an end to a conversation. Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #443

Again, you don't seem to be familiar with how this works. EOTE Nov 2013 #444

Ah, a textbook example of my argument Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #49

You are grotesque. nt. sibelian Nov 2013 #57

I am "grotesque" Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #80

I have two questions for you. redqueen Nov 2013 #59

I have one question for you. sibelian Nov 2013 #62

Hmmm... Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #83

exactly redq. they sit here and cheer treating women as a fuck. so funny, as they probably do not seabeyond Nov 2013 #72

Yep, it is easy to laugh... it is true it's pathetic. But it's also sad. redqueen Nov 2013 #84

but they forget the numbers. a mere 13% of men are reduced to paying for a fuck. what does it make seabeyond Nov 2013 #85

Like Hugh Grant? Marr Nov 2013 #138

ya. like hugh grant and even he knew how pathetic he was. oh charlie sheen. seabeyond Nov 2013 #140

No, we don't know that. That's my point. Marr Nov 2013 #142

right. these women are ultra horney, just want sex and is turned on by every guy not to mention, seabeyond Nov 2013 #145

I don't understad your comment. Marr Nov 2013 #151

That's a good thing. EOTE Nov 2013 #319

I never understand the hostility from that person. Marr Nov 2013 #321

When one is so poorly able to express his/herself, insults are easy to go to. EOTE Nov 2013 #325

The two people that I know solicited weren't scummy. bluestate10 Nov 2013 #175

No, but a five minute conversation Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #218

Sadly no Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #76

Thanks. redqueen Nov 2013 #89

Right on time... RetroLounge Nov 2013 #86

With the grumpy old men in the balcony saying the exact same things to her every time... LanternWaste Nov 2013 #122

Agreed. One side taunts, the other falls for it every time, in both directions. RetroLounge Nov 2013 #410

i guess your post is an example how to make du a more civil place? but then, i guess i am not seabeyond Nov 2013 #421

So Says the poster-child for word salads RetroLounge Nov 2013 #435

You could not understand those two simple sentences? Hm seabeyond Nov 2013 #437

Good thing you can edit now, huh? RetroLounge Nov 2013 #463

and thank you for proving my point. RetroLounge Nov 2013 #436

Outrage? Proving your point? Because I asked a question... seabeyond Nov 2013 #438

I read this entire thread. RetroLounge Nov 2013 #465

LOL!!! Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #439

I'm sorry, who are you? RetroLounge Nov 2013 #464

Brilliant riposte! Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #466

Aw, aren't you a sweetie? RetroLounge Nov 2013 #481

Ugh. sibelian Nov 2013 #56

As Charlie Sheen said "I am not paying women for sex... Drahthaardogs Nov 2013 #71

He is still paying for sex Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #77

oh ya, and if that is not the man to emulate. a man that is living in hell. but hey, lets raise seabeyond Nov 2013 #88

The word is emulate Drahthaardogs Nov 2013 #196

yes. it is easy for a man to laugh at a sexist joke. and for a white to laugh at a racist joke. seabeyond Nov 2013 #212

You are welcome Drahthaardogs Nov 2013 #220

Oh goodness, you didn't tell us you had been to geek tragedy Nov 2013 #313

pretty much how i felt. so tired of the.... but, europe. seabeyond Nov 2013 #315

! redqueen Nov 2013 #334

you need another hero. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #100

Charlie Sheen is probably paying them not to press charges. redqueen Nov 2013 #246

I agree that it's pathetic. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #87

What, Amy Farah Fowler said "no"? Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #126

Amy and I have the perfect relationship, with none of that icky bodily fluid stuff. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #156

*snort* Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #215

I suppose you think sex with a random woman at a bar is pathetic? Or with a women who may provide Proles Nov 2013 #95

Nope, not at all Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #125

LOL, care for each other cracks me up! nt Logical Nov 2013 #229

You don't pay someone to have sex with you. GliderGuider Nov 2013 #217

Already stated and answered Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #223

I know - I saw that after I'd posted. GliderGuider Nov 2013 #231

Agreed Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #235

LOL, says someone who has not spent two minutes thinking about... Logical Nov 2013 #228

Oh, I have spent many a time thinking about the whys Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #237

Nice try! nt Logical Nov 2013 #238

Well, Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #240

You are a shallow off thre cuff comedian! Nothing more. Nt Logical Nov 2013 #242

A shallow off the cuff comedian who Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #244

I disagree completely KentuckyWoman Nov 2013 #245

When you lack of social skills is such Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #251

purchasing sex has nothing to with social skills KentuckyWoman Nov 2013 #425

Yes, it does Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #426

OK so explain to me. KentuckyWoman Nov 2013 #427

Are you seriously arguing that the woman you describe is the typical client BainsBane Nov 2013 #428

Is her husband aware she Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #431

yes he is and supports it. KentuckyWoman Nov 2013 #472

What if you're disfigured? KansDem Nov 2013 #302

I have stated in other posts that there are narrow, rare Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #305

what does a woman do if she is disfigured? where is the BIG push for the woman that does not get seabeyond Nov 2013 #306

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #308

Although this thread is about men and sex... KansDem Nov 2013 #320

Maybe there *should* be more outlets available for such women... Just saying... nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #479

Strange... Glassunion Nov 2013 #4

I thought so too, I believe the common factor in these threads.... Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #45

Sex is never free Glassunion Nov 2013 #61

What does that mean?...nt Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #66

You pay for it one way or another. Glassunion Nov 2013 #67

That's because younger men are better about gender equality than older ones. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #8

Or maybe younger men are too foolish and inexperienced to make an educated choice. (WOW ... 11 Bravo Nov 2013 #29

possibly, but it's pretty clear the country has improved geek tragedy Nov 2013 #41

OK, but be aware that there are some old farts that have been ... 11 Bravo Nov 2013 #51

Fully recognized, and apologies for any offense caused. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #54

Would you consider that these vehemently pro-woman old farts redqueen Nov 2013 #64

I can only speak for myself. When I was 19 I paid for sex with a young woman ... 11 Bravo Nov 2013 #328

Hell, maybe they're short of money. What happened to the all hallowed money trail? Eleanors38 Nov 2013 #281

One way or another, many men still pay for sex. hughee99 Nov 2013 #12

So what are you saying? This is a typical misogynest comment. A dinner? seabeyond Nov 2013 #19

Yes, a typical misogynist comment... hughee99 Nov 2013 #22

your statement: "Men do things they don't want to do in hopes of getting sex." Skittles Nov 2013 #26

Sex is, of course, shared, but in many relationships one partner has much more control hughee99 Nov 2013 #33

yet when women behave the way men wished they did Skittles Nov 2013 #36

Not by those men I know who put in this effort hughee99 Nov 2013 #40

the women YOU BUY FROM Skittles Nov 2013 #58

ya.... hey skittles seabeyond Nov 2013 #69

Huh hughee99 Nov 2013 #73

... and I quote ... Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #103

I don't think that's it. hughee99 Nov 2013 #112

DAMN STRAIGHT I AM Skittles Nov 2013 #114

lulz, on the chili...nt Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #158

I assure you I comprehend just FINE Skittles Nov 2013 #113

I figured you did, which is why I'm confused by your response. hughee99 Nov 2013 #117

because you are "paying" one way of the other. one you are "paying" to not Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #131

So are you suggesting that people DON'T do something especially nice for their spouses hughee99 Nov 2013 #137

nah. i like sex. as i am all over him as much as he is all over me. no.... i was not giving seabeyond Nov 2013 #141

It sounds great, and healthy. hughee99 Nov 2013 #154

sigh... seabeyond Nov 2013 #164

Sorry, it's not my intention to make anyone feel bad. hughee99 Nov 2013 #171

You are obtuse, possibly, deliberately so. It is neither charming nor endearing. I suggest nothing - Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #222

+1 redqueen Nov 2013 #258

My goal isn't to be charming or endearing. hughee99 Nov 2013 #291

you need links and statistics to back your assertions. ugh. and gross. you live in a Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #324

So if I understand correctly, hughee99 Nov 2013 #326

If you think sex between committed partners is a transaction, I feel sorry for you. n/t MadrasT Nov 2013 #327

An excellent non-response to the question I posed. hughee99 Nov 2013 #329

I feel sorry for his partner, too. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #338

You keep moving the goalposts. That is not what you said above. I believe you and I are done here. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #337

How is it different from what I said above? hughee99 Nov 2013 #339

Please, go back and reread your posts and see how you keep changing your parameters. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #343

I've read my posts. I know what they say, since I wrote them. hughee99 Nov 2013 #348

Listen treat your wife like a human being and do nice things for her boston bean Nov 2013 #408

The motivation for doing something and the consequences from it aren't the same thing. hughee99 Nov 2013 #412

We do nice things for eachother because we love one another. boston bean Nov 2013 #413

People do nice things for their spouse because they love and appreciate them, hughee99 Nov 2013 #415

So we've moved from sex to love and appreciation are the "reward"? boston bean Nov 2013 #416

Actually, I was there about a half dozen posts ago. hughee99 Nov 2013 #417

Go back and read your first post in this sub thread. boston bean Nov 2013 #418

Ah, well, have a nice day. hughee99 Nov 2013 #419

Throughout the thread you have stated that things are done for rewards or for paying for it in boston bean Nov 2013 #420

I actually stated that things are done with the HOPE of a reward, hughee99 Nov 2013 #422

And I'm telling you have it backwards. Stop doing that. You'll be much happier. boston bean Nov 2013 #423

I understand, you're suggesting I do things hughee99 Nov 2013 #424

no, they are called Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #53

"Men do things they don't want to do in hopes of getting sex." MissMillie Nov 2013 #310

I agree, I didn't intend to imply it was hughee99 Nov 2013 #316

Doing things you don't want to do is wrong. JVS Nov 2013 #314

Translation Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #31

Misandry! geek tragedy Nov 2013 #43

+1 1000words Nov 2013 #44

Exactly. It's a joke at MEN'S expense. Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #52

It's hard to keep up BainsBane Nov 2013 #70

OMG... it is such a whine,. lordy. this is a funny thread. and it should not be. but seabeyond Nov 2013 #75

kind of like this BainsBane Nov 2013 #136

Women love sex and desire it but as a general rule do not have the same intense sex drive tc45a Nov 2013 #134

i know men with low sex drives and women with high. it is conditioning that we give to men that seabeyond Nov 2013 #170

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #187

yes. cause we say it over and over and over and over and over again. even if a man seabeyond Nov 2013 #189

The key phrase in the study: LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #194

Then why does Viagra exist? Get men out geek tragedy Nov 2013 #311

Misandry for you is daring to point out sexism BainsBane Nov 2013 #68

!!!!!! Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #74

+1 LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #331

ok. wht i get for this is if i do not honor, apprecaite, validate the 17% men that buy women to seabeyond Nov 2013 #81

That means prices are coming down! Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #14

The invisible hand ... job? 1000words Nov 2013 #15

Okay..you win the thread. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #152

Deadbeats! n/t sl8 Nov 2013 #16

Does the study say anything about men having LESS sex? In Japan men more and more are going uponit7771 Nov 2013 #17

Few men paid for it in the first place. 17% is a small part of the whole seabeyond Nov 2013 #18

yet there's guys who claim they have "no other choice" Skittles Nov 2013 #60

they probably do not. but then there are women that arent getting any either. we just do not sell seabeyond Nov 2013 #63

It's a self reported number... so it's likely somewhat deflated from reality. Agschmid Nov 2013 #92

maybe, or maybe not. one has to wonder why there is such an effort to inflate the number for more seabeyond Nov 2013 #96

Odd that this drop in men paying for sex coincides with the explosion of internet porn Fumesucker Nov 2013 #21

or more likely the gains women have made in society JI7 Nov 2013 #24

Personally I'm a coincidence theorist n/t Fumesucker Nov 2013 #25

Nah. I give it to porn. Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #34

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #99

Less houses of prostitution also enters into the equation tc45a Nov 2013 #121

For a moment I thought you said "hours." Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #124

Or, more likely, the increased emphasis the cops have put on prostitution lately jmowreader Nov 2013 #157

I would think social networking may also play a role in this. hughee99 Nov 2013 #27

Yup. Agschmid Nov 2013 #94

Men are paying for cam girls now Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #28

Just the dumb ones Fumesucker Nov 2013 #32

No, they're even paying for the smart cam girls JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2013 #39

Now you've done it. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #42

LOL! RetroLounge Nov 2013 #91

And the prevalence of Android/iPhone apps which allow you to meet up for free sex. Agschmid Nov 2013 #93

i say its due to the ease of finding someone who also wants sex online loli phabay Nov 2013 #201

I'll bow to the voice of experience Fumesucker Nov 2013 #295

think of it like sports, sometimes you just want a beer and highlights on tv loli phabay Nov 2013 #312

good gopiscrap Nov 2013 #46

Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #65

Since you just made that up.. nothing MattBaggins Nov 2013 #78

Men: single handedly-driving up the pay gap. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #101

Post was self deleted B Calm Nov 2013 #79

ah, maybe they ought to just give it to the men for free. why the fuck would they need to eat, seabeyond Nov 2013 #90

Who says they're being "used" if they agree to the act consensually? His was a joke by the way. /nt Proles Nov 2013 #97

ya, right cause the women are not desperate as it is. really, they are just horney and want the seabeyond Nov 2013 #98

You seem to be describing street prostitution, which is indeed exploitative. Proles Nov 2013 #106

You are bringing much needed sanity to this thread 1000words Nov 2013 #110

no. he tries to wrap it up in a pretty bow so others can feel good. there is nothing pretty about, seabeyond Nov 2013 #166

ya, do you know how many of thsoe women are sex slaves doing acts against their will cause there is seabeyond Nov 2013 #111

NOBODY chooses to be used as a human garbage can. duffyduff Nov 2013 #116

Whenever I see references to "human toilet". "human garbage can", etc. Bonobo Nov 2013 #283

So if someone doesn't make you happy by pretending that stuff doesn't exist BainsBane Nov 2013 #297

My opinion is as I stated it. Bonobo Nov 2013 #299

That isn't what you said BainsBane Nov 2013 #300

No, sorry, that is your interpretation. Bonobo Nov 2013 #301

he is treating her as a thing to use. are you really suggesting that a man that pays a woman to use seabeyond Nov 2013 #307

Your post contains entirely too much sanity. LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #169

There you go ....... and this is exactly why women have fought to have the polly7 Nov 2013 #183

Like working at McDonalds is a choice BainsBane Nov 2013 #298

It isn't "consent" when people prostitute themselves because they HAVE to. duffyduff Nov 2013 #115

Oh good. So either they're raping more... liberalmuse Nov 2013 #102

rape is not really about sex and i really doubt this is about plastics La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #108

free internet pr0n. KG Nov 2013 #105

If true, good. Prostitution is a human rights violation. n/t duffyduff Nov 2013 #109

I'm surprised no one has mentioned an obvious factor for this trend Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #118

ya. cause we are all concerned about the poor shmuck woman that isnt getting any. wait, she doesnt seabeyond Nov 2013 #128

The vast majority of arrests for solicitation are of men Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #129

i am saying the pathetic fools that have to buy a womans body to use is considered the "poor shmuck" seabeyond Nov 2013 #133

Nearly all women can get sex if they really want it tc45a Nov 2013 #149

you are full of crap. but men like to whine this so they can make their excuses to rape and pay.... seabeyond Nov 2013 #168

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because it is a very small group of men that buy a woman to use. which was my first point. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #186

Yes, and it looks like more and more are becoming willing to pay for it, also. polly7 Nov 2013 #323

the study also showed... Abukhatar Nov 2013 #123

Everytime I read the subject line, I misread it to say boston bean Nov 2013 #130

*snort* LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #160

I rarely see street prostitutes anymore madville Nov 2013 #132

Interested to see what some people here think of this. Bonobo Nov 2013 #135

Don't confuse the black and white broad-brushers, Bonobo 1000words Nov 2013 #146

pot, kettle BainsBane Nov 2013 #148

I have a family member who uses a sexual surrogate. I will not judge them, since msanthrope Nov 2013 #162

We're bartering for it TlalocW Nov 2013 #155

... LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #165

Nope.. Supposed to be PETA... opiate69 Nov 2013 #191

The crossover between "WOMEN'S CHOICE!!!" in the abortion threads LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #195

True that.. opiate69 Nov 2013 #198

Stunning hypocrisy 1000words Nov 2013 #202

I almost just stayed out of the thread completely. LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #267

I hear ya.. opiate69 Nov 2013 #272

I know, that's the first thing I think of when I see these threads. polly7 Nov 2013 #210

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That's great! polly7 Nov 2013 #232

Yeah, but... opiate69 Nov 2013 #247

Good to see you too, opiate! polly7 Nov 2013 #248

You dropped your twizzler?? opiate69 Nov 2013 #254

LOL! polly7 Nov 2013 #255

Lol.. When our dogs were still with us, they were completely oblivious... opiate69 Nov 2013 #257

LOL. I'd really like if my dog did that about now ....... he's watches every bite. polly7 Nov 2013 #261

My wife wants a big dog (our last two were a pom and a shih-tzu)... opiate69 Nov 2013 #265

Aw, I see the problem. polly7 Nov 2013 #273

Thanks.. I think we're gonna compromise on something like a decent sized pug lol opiate69 Nov 2013 #274

Great choice. Pugs are adorable! nt. polly7 Nov 2013 #275

Yup.. And, our landlady just so happens to breed them (although...) opiate69 Nov 2013 #276

Well that is handy, if you choose to do so! polly7 Nov 2013 #277

It's not really consent! Because, well, LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #264

Yup..and now, apparently money is a "coercive factor" as well... opiate69 Nov 2013 #268

Harumph!!!! polly7 Nov 2013 #269

Well, missy, the patriarchy done took over your mind. You are on the side of msanthrope Nov 2013 #335

Yup. Abortion has NOTHING to do with morality, but... Bonobo Nov 2013 #280

I like the almost quantum mechanical effect whereby a woman has choice and self-determination right Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #286

Sex Worker's Epilepsy LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #296

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IKR? The lies people will tell themselves... LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #360

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No, it was a snark LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #388

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OK, then, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for a moment LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #460

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You're welcome to come up with your own figures LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #462

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It was never a serious conversation LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #469

December is my favorite month: Moon Bombing! Ah the memories..... neverforget Nov 2013 #209

Epic thread. 1000words Nov 2013 #249

Ahh.. The good old days... opiate69 Nov 2013 #259

omega minimo RainDog Nov 2013 #270

That thread wins DU. It's awesome on so many levels! neverforget Nov 2013 #284

iteration? Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #285

I can't remember the other versions that were here RainDog Nov 2013 #290

"at least it's an ethos" Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #292

speaking of paying for sex RainDog Nov 2013 #293

Jesus Christ on a thermonuclear pogo stick. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #294

Faye Gunderson RainDog Nov 2013 #304

Yeah, that I spotted right away, at least. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #372

LOL RainDog Nov 2013 #429

Justin didn't get the memo Egnever Nov 2013 #172

Damn there goes my back up plan Evergreen Emerald Nov 2013 #178

I was curious .......... polly7 Nov 2013 #203

Legalize it. Regulate it. Tax it. erodriguez Nov 2013 #208

Groucho Marx RandySF Nov 2013 #279

I think two factors are at play here RandySF Nov 2013 #288

We all pay for sex MissMillie Nov 2013 #309

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That wasn't sex MissMillie Nov 2013 #333

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no we do not. this is so stupid, not you, but this idea. no. seabeyond Nov 2013 #341

except for completely anonymous sexual interactions where no money changes hands.... MissMillie Nov 2013 #345

that is true with every action in life. action/reaction. and ew do not say we are "paying" for it. seabeyond Nov 2013 #361

I have no problem saying "paying for it" with all the other stuff too MissMillie Nov 2013 #362

ya. i think now what i am hearing is how i can refer to it as... seabeyond Nov 2013 #363

These guys should consider that if all women are prostitutes, that means all men are johns. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #395

there is certainly a power difference in the two roles. and that is why men, SOME men are so seabeyond Nov 2013 #399

I think it's the illusion of having power over someone, as much as the reality. Hence the insecurity nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #402

interesting. and that is taking it a step further. what ego says to them, and what seabeyond Nov 2013 #403

Speaking for myself, I really hate the feeling of being helpless, powerless. In any way. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #409

"Where has this come from?" Capitalism, I suppose... nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #394

Bad economy? SoCalDem Nov 2013 #317

I call BS. A report on the number of massage parlours shows that flamingdem Nov 2013 #350

I just want everybody to know ..... oldhippie Nov 2013 #357

they certainly have BainsBane Nov 2013 #406

This whole industry should be decriminalized. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #381

Great post. Selling sex, at the very least, should be totally decriminalized, for the reasons nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #398

I'm not sure what the good points are Major Nikon Nov 2013 #470

Well, I could be wrong, but from what I've read it seems like low-level street prostitution nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #473

It was reduced for a few years Major Nikon Nov 2013 #475

Then it would seem a more nuanced approach is needed... nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #478

The problem is that in places where that has happened BainsBane Nov 2013 #407

Yeah, I've seen those statistics. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #411

There really is no simple, easy solution. But the "Swedish model" may be the lesser evil in the end. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #474

Not decriminalization. LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #414

The UN agrees Major Nikon Nov 2013 #471

Every time I read that subject line, I crack up. Iggo Nov 2013 #430

Seriously, men shouldn't be paying for sex. In_The_Wind Nov 2013 #432

Still funny! Iggo Nov 2013 #449

I think this article should be rewritten as a math story problem. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #476

If I were a math guy, I'd go for it. But I always did better in the written subjects. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #480

I'm totally not a math guy. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #482