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marmar

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Tue Nov 5, 2013, 12:36 PM Nov 2013

White House Sees 'No Alternative' to NSA's 'Collect It All' Approach [View all]


Published on Tuesday, November 5, 2013 by Common Dreams

Obama White House Sees 'No Alternative' to NSA's 'Collect It All' Approach
Bulk collection of 'metadata' to continue if NSA "needle in a haystack" argument continues to receive support from Obama administration

- Jon Queally, staff writer


Unfortunately for those concerned about the bulk collection of private communications by the government, the Obama administration just doesn't see another way conducting its spy business.

When it came to the question of neoliberal capitalism it was former British PM Margaret Thatcher who famously declared, "There is no alternative."

Now—in the face of growing concern and criticism over the global dragnet surveillance programs run by the NSA and other U.S. intelligence agencies determined to "collect it all"—it is the Obama White House saying, in effect, the same thing.

As the New York Times reports Tuesday, after six months of one revelation after another regarding the far-reaching nature of the nation's spy apparatus, "President Obama and his top advisers have concluded that there is no workable alternative to the bulk collection of huge quantities of 'metadata,' including records of all telephone calls made inside the United States." .....................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/11/05-0



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Mr. Constitutional Law Professor, my ass. woo me with science Nov 2013 #1
Why don't you care that Snowwald had pole dancers in his garage? Fumesucker Nov 2013 #4
We're supposed to repeat it how many times? woo me with science Nov 2013 #18
More chocolate? cui bono Nov 2013 #19
Yeah, the chocolate ration has been increased. woo me with science Nov 2013 #24
I take it it's snake oil they're using now? cui bono Nov 2013 #29
+1 Could be snake. Might be lizard. woo me with science Nov 2013 #30
+42. nt OnyxCollie Nov 2013 #43
I like what you did there! TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #57
Excellent. And sadly true. n/t cui bono Nov 2013 #59
What? No delicious Carob? AAO Nov 2013 #49
Well this administration, being so viciously anti-4th Amendment, wouldn't villager Nov 2013 #2
But Obama said there's no spying on Americans leftstreet Nov 2013 #3
There can be no nuances when dealing with terra jsr Nov 2013 #5
If this article is accurate, Obama will be a failed president. last1standing Nov 2013 #6
his favor ability numbers are terrible right now and this one of the reasons. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #8
Yep. nt bemildred Nov 2013 #11
Add "no warrantless intercepts of providers" to "it's only metadata" and "everyone does it" leveymg Nov 2013 #12
You forgot the girl and the boxes n the garage nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #16
Then they have "no alternative" but to obtain ~375,000,000 dickthegrouch Nov 2013 #7
Thank you. woo me with science Nov 2013 #9
So much hyperbole in this thread. randome Nov 2013 #10
so much overboiled frog in your post. n/t cali Nov 2013 #14
Hey..you just pipe down, light your hair on fire and run around in circles with your arms in the air Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #17
No one has their hair on fire, they are concerned about our democracy. cui bono Nov 2013 #22
There's an old response by Barney Frank Fearless Nov 2013 #21
'Propaganda'? I do not, in any way, consider myself to be an NSA booster. randome Nov 2013 #23
Citing those who support your point of view Fearless Nov 2013 #60
uhhh--NSA has law enforcement powers? Just when did this happen??? lastlib Nov 2013 #38
Okay, investigatory powers. randome Nov 2013 #56
"The courts have already ruled that this collection is legal" dickthegrouch Nov 2013 #61
Look, it's like chess... nt Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #13
Just wait until the White House hears from THIS guy!!!! bvar22 Nov 2013 #15
"Don't count me in on that" cui bono Nov 2013 #20
Joe's always been in the minority. OnyxCollie Nov 2013 #41
Whoever finds a quote by a WH offical saying there's no alternative gets a prize nt 851-977 Nov 2013 #25
It doesn't exist Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #27
Here it is from yesterday's New York Times riderinthestorm Nov 2013 #47
What's my prize? riderinthestorm Nov 2013 #48
So to get any privacy I need to give up my computer and phone. JEB Nov 2013 #26
How about 'collect none of it' ?? Works for me. bowens43 Nov 2013 #28
Is that traitor Snowden just trying to get attention again? LondonReign2 Nov 2013 #31
"Don't be fooled..." WillyT Nov 2013 #32
Corporate fascists are manipulative liars. woo me with science Nov 2013 #35
Social Security ctsnowman Nov 2013 #33
I can see an alternative booley Nov 2013 #34
Have a woodchuck cider hootinholler Nov 2013 #36
Well, shit, Barack, I've got one for ya:-- lastlib Nov 2013 #37
... xchrom Nov 2013 #39
How ever did we cope before we were able to lojack everyone? Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #40
Maybe the White House should appoint some advisers Enthusiast Nov 2013 #42
Well they have about three years to sell that idea Savannahmann Nov 2013 #44
We have evolved from "There is no spying on Americans"... bvar22 Nov 2013 #45
POLE DANCER BOXES CHINA RUSSIA PUTIN LIBERTARIAN TRAITOR SEDITION STOLEN GREENWALD OATHKEEPERS NuclearDem Nov 2013 #46
You forgot "attention seekers". Can't let a day go by without reminding us of THAT! nt riderinthestorm Nov 2013 #54
If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear... pokerfan Nov 2013 #50
Bullshit agent46 Nov 2013 #51
My wife just reminded me of two very power phrases that should be etiched in the oval office and diabeticman Nov 2013 #52
Here's the phrase they're actually going by Dreamer Tatum Nov 2013 #53
+1000000 woo me with science Nov 2013 #55
kick woo me with science Nov 2013 #58
Politicians have strong vocal cords.....poor vision. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #62
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