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Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
17. Hooray for YOUR employer(s).
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 12:37 PM
Nov 2013

That isn't the case for everyone by a long shot. It might work at a restaurant or even a grocery store, but it sure doesn't work that way at large retailers, much less at whole malls worth of retailers, which is where we're headed next.

I've had some jobs where I've been asked to work holidays. But I've seen as many dick moves by employers about this as I've seen reasonable policies. The worst of them was one of my bosses, when I was in management and had given a month's notice. I intended my last day to be our last working day (Thursday) before Christmas, which fell on a Saturday. For a whole year, the calendar had been set to give people Friday off (Christmas Eve, makes sense, virtually all companies did it that way). My boss decided he wanted me for one more day - busy season at year end, would rather pay my salary for that week as all working days rather than part holiday pay to get his "best money's worth" - so less than 2 weeks before Christmas he told the whole company that he was changing the calendar and everyone would have Monday off instead of Friday. There went 12 people's holiday plans, some of whom were traveling to family gatherings hundreds of miles away.

So, you can argue about how lucky you've been, but don't generalize your experience to the hundreds of thousands of retail workers who are going to get shafted this year, and even worse in years to come.

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Many employers pay 1.5X or double time. Health care workers, cops, firemen and many others .... Scuba Nov 2013 #1
Retail stores are different than emergency workers scheming daemons Nov 2013 #3
Cops and fireman know it comes with the job Travis_0004 Nov 2013 #6
Well, hey - let's just not have ANY holidays, ever, for anybody! Daemonaquila Nov 2013 #14
Not retailers. A lot of retailers now at days treat holidays like any other day of the week. There diabeticman Nov 2013 #27
Are you sure retailers pay overtime anymore? riderinthestorm Nov 2013 #65
Guy in HomeDepot told me he'll get double time on Thanksgiving, as does my daughter (retail big box) Scuba Nov 2013 #68
Yes they do. Agschmid Nov 2013 #71
that is a state law thing, more than a corp thing. red states fucked themsleves. bettyellen Nov 2013 #94
.....and not everyone has families to be with. brooklynite Nov 2013 #2
Friends too scheming daemons Nov 2013 #5
So everyone should suffer? Daemonaquila Nov 2013 #9
Anytime I have worked a holiday, HappyMe Nov 2013 #11
Hooray for YOUR employer(s). Daemonaquila Nov 2013 #17
That's not how it works now. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #56
I used to always try to get holiday shifts when I was young... snooper2 Nov 2013 #4
In principle yes, but many younger people love to work on the holidays bhikkhu Nov 2013 #7
I worked at an upscale Italian deli/restaurant. HappyMe Nov 2013 #8
If I do 'have to' shop on a Holiday, I always THANK THEM for making my day easier.. Tikki Nov 2013 #10
Makes no difference this year to me as I won't be kydo Nov 2013 #12
Lol. I will be shopping at Macy's a lot this year Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #13
I'll be gifting Turkeys and corn to my local Indian tribe. trumad Nov 2013 #15
Do the Indians now take food in trade for chips at the casinos? Ikonoklast Nov 2013 #24
Tons of people have to work on holidays. RedCappedBandit Nov 2013 #16
I'm thinking donations in the name of the gift receivers csziggy Nov 2013 #18
Problem is many employee's like the extra money... Historic NY Nov 2013 #19
dont use your cell phone, cable tv or dsl all those places force workers to work on thankgiving leftyohiolib Nov 2013 #20
Also don't turn any faucet or electrical appliance. 11 Bravo Nov 2013 #21
good point leftyohiolib Nov 2013 #22
........ daleanime Nov 2013 #26
most retail workers dont get bonus pay on thanksgiving scheming daemons Nov 2013 #80
i wasnt talking about emergency workers - cell phone companies cable tv arent emergency workers leftyohiolib Nov 2013 #88
I used to beg those shifts at the 'bux. Chan790 Nov 2013 #23
LOL---Op kind of blew up on you. trumad Nov 2013 #25
No, it didn't kcr Nov 2013 #28
Well I guess every opinion given in this Op was teh stupid. trumad Nov 2013 #29
No, just the ones that compared the necessity of Macy's staying open kcr Nov 2013 #32
or the necessity of people needing to work trumad Nov 2013 #35
So, people needing money is a good excuse to exploit them? kcr Nov 2013 #38
Thank you. nt DLevine Nov 2013 #39
Oh fuck that exploiting shit. trumad Nov 2013 #40
I would hate to have to diagram that sentence. grantcart Nov 2013 #46
Had I felt exploited or mistreated in any way, HappyMe Nov 2013 #41
Well, that would be perfectly fine and dandy kcr Nov 2013 #42
Why the belittling attitude? HappyMe Nov 2013 #43
Your point may not be as snarky, but it's no less belittling. kcr Nov 2013 #44
I never said that my experiences reflect HappyMe Nov 2013 #49
Well, they are. kcr Nov 2013 #51
Well, I find your snide, shut the fuck up HappyMe Nov 2013 #52
I'm sorry you find my attitude crappy kcr Nov 2013 #55
What exactly am I supposed to learn HappyMe Nov 2013 #60
That not everyone has your exact experience kcr Nov 2013 #66
Good grief! HappyMe Nov 2013 #70
Some do and some don't. penultimate Nov 2013 #99
I just want to assume? kcr Nov 2013 #103
There are two bad premises in this thread... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #54
I was never forced to work a holiday. HappyMe Nov 2013 #59
No one is saying that all people are being forced. kcr Nov 2013 #72
More than one person in this thread.... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #91
And you're wrong kcr Nov 2013 #92
Many people are like me and don't view it as being exploited because we don't care penultimate Nov 2013 #100
You don't work retail kcr Nov 2013 #104
But even if I worked retail I would feel the same way.... penultimate Nov 2013 #105
There are plenty of hours available to work kcr Nov 2013 #106
And you know what? kcr Nov 2013 #107
They will have plenty of overtime opportunities SoCalNative Nov 2013 #50
That's exactly what this is. Greed. kcr Nov 2013 #53
not really... anyone is free to disagree with me scheming daemons Nov 2013 #77
You should probably ask each employee if they're being forced... cynatnite Nov 2013 #30
Livable wages kcr Nov 2013 #37
Black Friday is mandatory. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #58
Black Friday is not a holiday. n/t cynatnite Nov 2013 #73
I didn't say it was. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #74
It's not black friday if the sale is on a Thursday... cynatnite Nov 2013 #82
Uh huh. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #86
Well, some do call it that on Thursdays regardless... cynatnite Nov 2013 #87
back when unions werent neutered, holidays were PAID time off scheming daemons Nov 2013 #81
Totally agree. Husband used to get paid 8 hours on those holidays. n/t cynatnite Nov 2013 #83
Add Target to the list Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2013 #31
I worked a drug store on Thanksgiving for several years sweetloukillbot Nov 2013 #33
I have always loved shopping at Kmart on Thanksgiving. joeglow3 Nov 2013 #34
Good for you. DLevine Nov 2013 #36
Walmart does that. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #62
Not surprised. DLevine Nov 2013 #67
idon't, i won't shop on the holidays. xchrom Nov 2013 #45
Exactly. DLevine Nov 2013 #47
They love to talk about workers rights. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #75
Yes you will. NCTraveler Nov 2013 #48
I will, if only to support the workers who get double-time extra pay. BlueCaliDem Nov 2013 #57
Good luck. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #64
I'm with you. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #61
Some work as volunteers. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #63
I will not shop any place that put out the Christmas stuff before Halloween. n/t Hotler Nov 2013 #69
Well...you best not get sick...Many FarPoint Nov 2013 #76
this is about shopping retail... not emergency workers scheming daemons Nov 2013 #78
thanksgiving should be a paid holiday... scheming daemons Nov 2013 #79
I'm with you! We have truly lost our way, time to value life...time to value humanity. nt mother earth Nov 2013 #84
What about people that shop on Thanksgiving? kentuck Nov 2013 #85
that's my point... scheming daemons Nov 2013 #90
Always been .... adavid Nov 2013 #89
Good for you... Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #93
30 years ago, before Reaganism destroyed unions... scheming daemons Nov 2013 #97
I always worked holidays because it was 2 1/2 times pay. BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #95
How about if they are only open til 1 PM? Kingofalldems Nov 2013 #96
What about convenience and gas stations? Glassunion Nov 2013 #98
Because celebrating Native American genocide is of paramount concern to all Americans. Coyotl Nov 2013 #101
I understand the sentiment... NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #102
I won't shop those days, and I'll do my best Ilsa Nov 2013 #108
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