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scheming daemons

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81. back when unions werent neutered, holidays were PAID time off

Reply to cynatnite (Reply #30)

Tue Nov 5, 2013, 04:34 PM

Nov 2013

How much we've forgotten.

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I will not shop in any establishment that makes its employees work on Thanksgiving [View all] scheming daemons Nov 2013 OP

Many employers pay 1.5X or double time. Health care workers, cops, firemen and many others .... Scuba Nov 2013 #1

Retail stores are different than emergency workers scheming daemons Nov 2013 #3

Cops and fireman know it comes with the job Travis_0004 Nov 2013 #6

Well, hey - let's just not have ANY holidays, ever, for anybody! Daemonaquila Nov 2013 #14

Not retailers. A lot of retailers now at days treat holidays like any other day of the week. There diabeticman Nov 2013 #27

Are you sure retailers pay overtime anymore? riderinthestorm Nov 2013 #65

Guy in HomeDepot told me he'll get double time on Thanksgiving, as does my daughter (retail big box) Scuba Nov 2013 #68

Yes they do. Agschmid Nov 2013 #71

that is a state law thing, more than a corp thing. red states fucked themsleves. bettyellen Nov 2013 #94

.....and not everyone has families to be with. brooklynite Nov 2013 #2

Friends too scheming daemons Nov 2013 #5

So everyone should suffer? Daemonaquila Nov 2013 #9

Anytime I have worked a holiday, HappyMe Nov 2013 #11

Hooray for YOUR employer(s). Daemonaquila Nov 2013 #17

That's not how it works now. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #56

I used to always try to get holiday shifts when I was young... snooper2 Nov 2013 #4

In principle yes, but many younger people love to work on the holidays bhikkhu Nov 2013 #7

I worked at an upscale Italian deli/restaurant. HappyMe Nov 2013 #8

If I do 'have to' shop on a Holiday, I always THANK THEM for making my day easier.. Tikki Nov 2013 #10

Makes no difference this year to me as I won't be kydo Nov 2013 #12

Lol. I will be shopping at Macy's a lot this year Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #13

I'll be gifting Turkeys and corn to my local Indian tribe. trumad Nov 2013 #15

Do the Indians now take food in trade for chips at the casinos? Ikonoklast Nov 2013 #24

Tons of people have to work on holidays. RedCappedBandit Nov 2013 #16

I'm thinking donations in the name of the gift receivers csziggy Nov 2013 #18

Problem is many employee's like the extra money... Historic NY Nov 2013 #19

dont use your cell phone, cable tv or dsl all those places force workers to work on thankgiving leftyohiolib Nov 2013 #20

Also don't turn any faucet or electrical appliance. 11 Bravo Nov 2013 #21

good point leftyohiolib Nov 2013 #22

........ daleanime Nov 2013 #26

most retail workers dont get bonus pay on thanksgiving scheming daemons Nov 2013 #80

i wasnt talking about emergency workers - cell phone companies cable tv arent emergency workers leftyohiolib Nov 2013 #88

I used to beg those shifts at the 'bux. Chan790 Nov 2013 #23

LOL---Op kind of blew up on you. trumad Nov 2013 #25

No, it didn't kcr Nov 2013 #28

Well I guess every opinion given in this Op was teh stupid. trumad Nov 2013 #29

No, just the ones that compared the necessity of Macy's staying open kcr Nov 2013 #32

or the necessity of people needing to work trumad Nov 2013 #35

So, people needing money is a good excuse to exploit them? kcr Nov 2013 #38

Thank you. nt DLevine Nov 2013 #39

Oh fuck that exploiting shit. trumad Nov 2013 #40

I would hate to have to diagram that sentence. grantcart Nov 2013 #46

Had I felt exploited or mistreated in any way, HappyMe Nov 2013 #41

Well, that would be perfectly fine and dandy kcr Nov 2013 #42

Why the belittling attitude? HappyMe Nov 2013 #43

Your point may not be as snarky, but it's no less belittling. kcr Nov 2013 #44

I never said that my experiences reflect HappyMe Nov 2013 #49

Well, they are. kcr Nov 2013 #51

Well, I find your snide, shut the fuck up HappyMe Nov 2013 #52

I'm sorry you find my attitude crappy kcr Nov 2013 #55

What exactly am I supposed to learn HappyMe Nov 2013 #60

That not everyone has your exact experience kcr Nov 2013 #66

Good grief! HappyMe Nov 2013 #70

Some do and some don't. penultimate Nov 2013 #99

I just want to assume? kcr Nov 2013 #103

There are two bad premises in this thread... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #54

I was never forced to work a holiday. HappyMe Nov 2013 #59

No one is saying that all people are being forced. kcr Nov 2013 #72

More than one person in this thread.... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #91

And you're wrong kcr Nov 2013 #92

Many people are like me and don't view it as being exploited because we don't care penultimate Nov 2013 #100

You don't work retail kcr Nov 2013 #104

But even if I worked retail I would feel the same way.... penultimate Nov 2013 #105

There are plenty of hours available to work kcr Nov 2013 #106

And you know what? kcr Nov 2013 #107

They will have plenty of overtime opportunities SoCalNative Nov 2013 #50

That's exactly what this is. Greed. kcr Nov 2013 #53

not really... anyone is free to disagree with me scheming daemons Nov 2013 #77

You should probably ask each employee if they're being forced... cynatnite Nov 2013 #30

Livable wages kcr Nov 2013 #37

Black Friday is mandatory. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #58

Black Friday is not a holiday. n/t cynatnite Nov 2013 #73

I didn't say it was. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #74

It's not black friday if the sale is on a Thursday... cynatnite Nov 2013 #82

Uh huh. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #86

Well, some do call it that on Thursdays regardless... cynatnite Nov 2013 #87

back when unions werent neutered, holidays were PAID time off scheming daemons Nov 2013 #81

Totally agree. Husband used to get paid 8 hours on those holidays. n/t cynatnite Nov 2013 #83

Add Target to the list Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2013 #31

I worked a drug store on Thanksgiving for several years sweetloukillbot Nov 2013 #33

I have always loved shopping at Kmart on Thanksgiving. joeglow3 Nov 2013 #34

Good for you. DLevine Nov 2013 #36

Walmart does that. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #62

Not surprised. DLevine Nov 2013 #67

idon't, i won't shop on the holidays. xchrom Nov 2013 #45

Exactly. DLevine Nov 2013 #47

They love to talk about workers rights. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #75

Yes you will. NCTraveler Nov 2013 #48

I will, if only to support the workers who get double-time extra pay. BlueCaliDem Nov 2013 #57

Good luck. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #64

I'm with you. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #61

Some work as volunteers. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #63

I will not shop any place that put out the Christmas stuff before Halloween. n/t Hotler Nov 2013 #69

Well...you best not get sick...Many FarPoint Nov 2013 #76

this is about shopping retail... not emergency workers scheming daemons Nov 2013 #78

thanksgiving should be a paid holiday... scheming daemons Nov 2013 #79

I'm with you! We have truly lost our way, time to value life...time to value humanity. nt mother earth Nov 2013 #84

What about people that shop on Thanksgiving? kentuck Nov 2013 #85

that's my point... scheming daemons Nov 2013 #90

Always been .... adavid Nov 2013 #89

Good for you... Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #93

30 years ago, before Reaganism destroyed unions... scheming daemons Nov 2013 #97

I always worked holidays because it was 2 1/2 times pay. BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #95

How about if they are only open til 1 PM? Kingofalldems Nov 2013 #96

What about convenience and gas stations? Glassunion Nov 2013 #98

Because celebrating Native American genocide is of paramount concern to all Americans. Coyotl Nov 2013 #101

I understand the sentiment... NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #102

I won't shop those days, and I'll do my best Ilsa Nov 2013 #108