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In reply to the discussion: Charles P. Pierce: Nat'l Democrats - Wrong. Very wrong. Incredibly wrong. Spectacularly wrong. [View all]madfloridian
(88,117 posts)29. Debbie W. insulted Dem candidate (against Adam Putnam). Refused to support him. 2008
The lack of support by the Florida party for progressives goes back a long way. We were supporting this guy against Adam "Opie" Putnam, and we mistakenly assumed Florida Democrats would also. But they didn't. Doug Tudor would have been a good thing for Florida Democrats, yet they shut him out.
Wasserman Schultz insults FL Dem candidate...says "don't pull that populist stuff on me."
In the words of a very capable Democratic candidate with a lot of support from the people....
One of the most satisfying aspects of my time in Denver was being able to see Democrats uniting together to help other Democrats. I received financial support from Congressman John Salazar (D-CO), Congressman Phil Hare (D-IL), future Congressman Jared Polis (D-CO), as well as from convention attendees from Washington, Montana, North Carolina, and Florida. What I have not been able to do is to get Democrats from Floridas congressional caucus to risk offending their good friend, Adam Putnam, by contributing from their personal wealth or campaign accounts, or by endorsing me.
I, of course, was most anxious to meet and speak with Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (DINO-FL), who is chairing the DCCCs Red-to-Blue program. I just knew that she would welcome the chance to defeat Adam Putnam, as that would allow her lay sole claim to the title of Wonder Kid in Floridas politics. Adam, after all, isnt her next door neighbor. Once she comes onboard, I assumed, the other members of the caucus would lose their timidity and also support me. I was dead wrong, and I should have known better.
It is well known that Wasserman-Schultz supports Republicans Lincoln Diaz-Balart, Mario Diaz-Balart, and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen over their Democratic opponents, although lately she has been pressured into giving belated and grudging support to Joe Garcia and Raul Martinez who are opposing the Diaz-Balarts. I always figured that she was just afraid of the Hispanic backlash in her own district. What I hadnt considered is that she is just afraid of all incumbent Republicans in Florida. When I met her in Denver, she immediately told me that she couldnt support me, saying I hadnt raised enough money. I told her that I had raised $100K, that I was a military retiree, that my family is living on my wifes Air Force E6 pay, and that I wasnt able like other viable candidates to drop a quarter of a million dollars into my own campaign. I then told her, Congresswoman, I am one of those working-class guys that our party claims to represent. Her response was Dont pull that populist stuff with me. I thanked her for her time.
Don't pull that populist stuff on her? Now that is just sad.
It wasn't just Doug, and it wasn't just Debbie W. who refused to support Democrats.
Two Florida Democratic congress folks prefer their Republican incumbents to their own party.
This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.
''At the end of the day, we need a member who isn't going to pull any punches, who isn't going to be hesitant,'' Wasserman Schultz said.
The decision comes as Democrats believe they have their best shot in years to defeat at least one of the Cuban-American incumbents with a roster of Democrats that include former Hialeah Mayor Raul Martinez, opposing Lincoln Diaz-Balart; outgoing Miami-Dade Democratic party chair Joe Garcia, opposing Mario Diaz-Balart; and businesswoman Annette Taddeo, opposing Ros-Lehtinen.
But Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their ties to the three Republicans are personal as well as professional: Both served in the state Legislature with Mario Diaz-Balart and say they work in concert with all three on South Florida issues.
I sort of mentally compare this attitude in Florida through the years to the apparent lack of opposition to Chris Christie in NJ. There's a price to pay for refusing to oppose Republicans.
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Charles P. Pierce: Nat'l Democrats - Wrong. Very wrong. Incredibly wrong. Spectacularly wrong. [View all]
kpete
Nov 2013
OP
at some point, New Jersey Democrats have to lead the way in their own state
geek tragedy
Nov 2013
#5
EXACTLY!! This isn't about the DNC!! Jersey Democrats had been licking CC's ass
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#19
Exactly. NJ Dems went after the legislature seats, leaving CC to beat up on Cruz and Jebby. nt
msanthrope
Nov 2013
#38
It's a shame because Barbara Buono is a decent person. I was proud to vote for her today.
smokey nj
Nov 2013
#7
She's an amazing woman and an amazing candidate. I wouldn't blame her at all
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#20
Yes, but the NJ Democrats should have backed her from the beginning. They didn't!
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#60
They must have feel too tired to revenge vote against this union buster, teacher hater.
ancianita
Nov 2013
#62
Right! Exactly! People can wrongly blame national Democrats all they want.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#92
I don't care about Obama and Christie. They are state level Democrats.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#91
^^^^This is the correct answer. We are played like fools by corporatists in both parties.^^^^
woo me with science
Nov 2013
#52
I posted exactly the same thought yesterday. I found an article that ever-so-briefly
Ninga
Nov 2013
#10
And again, I keep seeing this fallacy that Barbara Buono was a weak candidate.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#17
His win is the fault of the people of NJ, but we as Democrats should seek to intervene and attempt
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2013
#28
Thats why a national committeeman was quoted in the article, because it was the illuminati
DireStrike
Nov 2013
#32
Why National Democrats rolled over for CC? Because NJ Democrats did!!
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#18
No. It was not the other way around, and Barbara Buono called them out on it.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#93
Perhaps this a good place for progressives to field a third party candidate?
Baitball Blogger
Nov 2013
#13
No!! It's a good place for Democrats to field progressive Democrats!!
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#21
We will most assuredly be disappointed. I already have been. He's the corporate class' guy.
ancianita
Nov 2013
#35
Excuses, excuses. Blue Dogs are starting to lose races. I've told the story of Donna Edwards'
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#56
The first time I'll disagree with Charlie because it's not just the DNC.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#15
Yeah, I keep hearing Democrats falsely accuse her of being a bad candidate simply because she didn't
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#58
The people were behind him. He had a huge coalition, name recognition, a presence. By the time Buono
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#69
I loved her during the debates. She did not allow him to intimidate her at all. In fact, he seemed
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#71
Your main flaw is assuming policies count, it's all about the persona of the person.
CK_John
Nov 2013
#22
Debbie Weaselman-Schlitz wouldn't even bother to endorse Florida Dem Congressional candidates,
Fuddnik
Nov 2013
#25
Debbie W. insulted Dem candidate (against Adam Putnam). Refused to support him. 2008
madfloridian
Nov 2013
#29
Also they ignored 2 other great candidates we supported with our donations and more.
madfloridian
Nov 2013
#41
I see I'm not the only person feeling uneasy about the way the whole Dem
senseandsensibility
Nov 2013
#40
Sorry...I told the Democratic Governor's Association not to give her a penny.....
brooklynite
Nov 2013
#55
The game is to prop up that egomaniac and get the Republicans to pick him as their next loser.
Spitfire of ATJ
Nov 2013
#66
The money that buys our party wouldn't let Howard Dean continue the fighting spirit
loudsue
Nov 2013
#87
It's the Dems way of indicating the conservative candidate is closer to their ideology..without
NorthCarolina
Nov 2013
#94
I think Democratic Leadership needs to attend local city council meetings in GOP areas
SleeplessinSoCal
Nov 2013
#99