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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 01:07 AM Dec 2011

Morally bankrupt? [View all]

I'm morally bankrupt because I support Pres. Obama?

Bullshit.

You want to know what's morally bankrupt? The liberals who, in 2000, told us there was no difference between Al Gore and George W. Bush. Michael Moore, in my view, has just as much blood on his hands as anyone else who voted for Bush in that election.

You want to talk about purism and standing for conviction - any dolt who felt the need to cast their ballot in protest to the Democratic Party and Al Gore back then is, no matter what they tell themselves, just as responsible for Bush's reign of terror as the Supreme Court and the Republican assholes who voted for him.

Everyone knew the stakes then, but some selfish assholes didn't care. Instead, they supported a deceiving and lying candidate like Ralph Nader, who, like Moore, spread around the false-message that Gore would be every much the mirror presidency as his opponent.

It was a blatant lie that some foolish, idealistic and selfish liberals ate up because they didn't know any better.

So, as much as many of you praise and defend Nader and his followers - it's remarkably convenient you totally ignore his enabling of Republicans and appeasing of fucks like George Bush.

And you can defend that vote until you're blue in the face and it doesn't change the fact that, in the end, many small-minded liberals were easily manipulated by remarkably shortsighted figures of the supposed left.

Because Gore wasn't good enough for you, didn't make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, you either didn't vote or you voted for a guy knowing full well it would ultimately push Bush that much closer to the White House.

That's damning.

But what's more damning is that some of you are content to do it all over again.

Fuck that nonsense.

Fuck your selfishness.

You don't think there is any stakes in this election...kiss my Irish ass.

Just as those who felt the need to vote against Gore in '00 are, at least in part, responsible for the thousands dead during the Iraq War, anyone who would vote against Obama will be, in part, responsible for any action that could come if the Republicans were to again win the White House.

This is what frustrates me the most about you selfish assholes. It's not always about you. It's not always about your wants and your needs.

Anyone who sees no difference between what Pres. Obama is offering America and what the Republicans are offering are either stupid, ignorant or just plain lying to themselves.

So, if you're okay throwing your vote behind a person you know won't win, even if the direct result is to put a Republican in office, you're telling your fellow citizens to FUCK OFF.

You want to talk about morally bankrupt?

It's openly knowing your vote will bring an end to any hope of fixing the middle class. Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul - they've all made it pretty clear they don't give a damn about the working class in this country. So, no more unemployment benefits, no more money for social programs, less money for Social Security and Medicare, no more Obama healthcare plan, no more spending on education and certainly no more domestic spending.

All the money will be tied to tax cuts and deregulating even more.

That's just here at home. Your vote against Obama should bring about a more hawkish foreign policy that is far more aggressive with Iran (remember, Romney has all but said he would invade Iran at a whim...), the potential of a fight to bring back DADT and a more divided worldview, or essentially, the type of mindset that gave us Iraq.

But the biggest fuck you will go to gays and women. Your vote against Obama will certainly be a vote for potentially two or three anti-choice, anti-gay, anti-progressive judges who will influence the judicial branch of this country for decades to come.

That's morally bankrupt.

And don't tell me this is all on Pres. Obama. He doesn't tell you who to vote for. As a voter, you have that awesome responsibility to weigh every option and every consequence. You have to think out your vote and not just do it on passion or gut.

You've got to look at the circumstances - the reality, the potential reality and the devastating reality.

Is Pres. Obama perfect? No. Has Pres. Obama fucked up? Yes. Is Pres. Obama infinitely better than anything the GOP is offering? Absolutely. And just as we'll be responsible for his actions when we cast our votes for him, you'll be responsible for the actions of the man that could replace him if you either don't vote, or vote against Obama.

This isn't just an election about character or how you feel inside when you pull that lever. This is an election about the future of our country and if you're willing to sell us down the river just so that you can feel ideologically superior to the rest of us, well I find that to be the most contemptible and selfish trait of all.

You're giving a big FUCK YOU to America. To her people. To the future.

You want to talk about morally bankrupt...

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Morally bankrupt? [View all] Drunken Irishman Dec 2011 OP
Good rant... SidDithers Dec 2011 #1
Thank you. tabatha Dec 2011 #2
Pretty good - but: cliffordu Dec 2011 #3
Something get your Irish up? Scurrilous Dec 2011 #4
I voted for Gore and Obama. tblue Dec 2011 #5
No. Just the right to bitch... Drunken Irishman Dec 2011 #8
The fact that you are honest enough tblue Dec 2011 #18
Thank you. Well said. -nt CakeGrrl Dec 2011 #6
i voted for gore. i always vote DesertFlower Dec 2011 #7
Obviously you're not a selfish person... Drunken Irishman Dec 2011 #9
my grandfather was president of a DesertFlower Dec 2011 #13
You forgot contemptible addict. DevonRex Dec 2011 #10
Well, I can't wait to hear the rebuttal to this. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #11
I have to say... Spazito Dec 2011 #12
Hear, hear! Summer Hathaway Dec 2011 #14
Al Gore won in 2000 but the US supreme court threw our votes out and then voted 5-4 and selected Citizen Worker Dec 2011 #15
I was about to point that out WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2011 #20
Probably not, almost certainly not, and possible. MH1 Dec 2011 #45
This is ProSense Dec 2011 #16
But no one said anything resembling your claim jpgray Dec 2011 #17
Hmmm, this is the statement I distinctly remember as casting Obama supporters as "morally bankrupt" Spazito Dec 2011 #19
But that does not refer to Obama's supporters jpgray Dec 2011 #22
Who are the "defenders" as opposed to the "supporters" in your mind... Spazito Dec 2011 #26
Very few Obama supporters resemble those described in the OP jpgray Dec 2011 #28
Then the OP I cited was sadly lacking in clarity... Spazito Dec 2011 #30
I perceive that you are correct Owlet Dec 2011 #37
interesting SwampG8r Dec 2011 #29
Frustration is one thing, labeling Obama supporters as "defenders who are morally corrupt... Spazito Dec 2011 #32
i find it sad they reference any obama supporters SwampG8r Dec 2011 #61
But ProSense Dec 2011 #21
For the OP referred to in this thread, you could replace Obama's name with any president's jpgray Dec 2011 #23
Seriously, ProSense Dec 2011 #25
Good. Wait Wut Dec 2011 #48
Anyone who defends Clinton's deregulation and welfare reform-- eridani Dec 2011 #56
The jury was unanimous. joshcryer Dec 2011 #24
I voted for Al Gore. Lugnut Dec 2011 #27
K + R deacon Dec 2011 #31
I hope you feel better Tsiyu Dec 2011 #33
It is so absurd, I mean what is the point? JNelson6563 Dec 2011 #34
ITA. nt DevonRex Dec 2011 #38
Can you say "hyperbole?" Tsiyu Dec 2011 #39
love it or leave it? got it. no thanks. piratefish08 Dec 2011 #35
turning around and calling others the same thing G_j Dec 2011 #36
sometimes you just have to stand up Whisp Dec 2011 #42
walked on? G_j Dec 2011 #47
words are words, aren't they? Whisp Dec 2011 #49
Simple reply but thank you. SunsetDreams Dec 2011 #40
Righteous Rant! Whisp Dec 2011 #41
hey, you made it to DU3! try the BOG sometime! dionysus Dec 2011 #43
Well said . MH1 Dec 2011 #44
Sorry I was late to this. K&R. great white snark Dec 2011 #46
Kick Scurrilous Dec 2011 #50
True Blue Cool Post :) bottom line Dec 2011 #51
K&R. I missed the thread where the Obama supporters were accused gateley Dec 2011 #52
Don't feel bad you missed out. There is a brand new sequel today emulatorloo Dec 2011 #53
Beautiful rant! McCamy Taylor Dec 2011 #54
K&R treestar Dec 2011 #55
Hey Irish... Number23 Dec 2011 #57
Excellent ! nevergiveup Dec 2011 #58
Best rant I've read for ages! yellerpup Dec 2011 #59
This is DU ... not REALITY!!!!! JoePhilly Dec 2011 #60
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