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59. The brother says drugs were a factor. If you understood anything about

Wed Nov 6, 2013, 12:31 AM

Nov 2013

bipolar disease you would know that it didn't matter that drugs weren't found in his system at the time of death. Drugs that he had taken days before could have been the trigger that led to the manic episode that his brother identified. Once the drug triggers the mania, it doesn't matter that the drug has left his system. The mania remains until it runs its course.

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Michael Hastings's brother rules out foul play in death; says media sensationalized [View all] pnwmom Nov 2013 OP

THEY obviously got to him... gcomeau Nov 2013 #1

How do we know this was REALLY his brother? LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #6

I'm just gonna kick this from time to time.....nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #2

I know what that's like, going to stay with someone DevonRex Nov 2013 #3

I have had a similar experience with a good friend Skidmore Nov 2013 #9

She was right. DevonRex Nov 2013 #10

It's one thing to consider, but that's all CrawlingChaos Nov 2013 #4

He was with him hours before his death, sleeping in the same apartment, pnwmom Nov 2013 #11

sad to see people make conspiracies out of things like this functioning_cog Nov 2013 #20

Yes, we've established that he was with him, and he was upset CrawlingChaos Nov 2013 #23

We know his brother is a doc. We know they lived together in NY cali Nov 2013 #27

It isn't just the fact that he was the brother. He was the brother pnwmom Nov 2013 #28

The "journalists" who insert themselves in this situtation are ghouls. Fucking ghouls. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #35

Good thing we have you here to correct his family and the people geek tragedy Nov 2013 #31

The only person I corrected was the OP CrawlingChaos Nov 2013 #36

Problem is that your post was neither rational nor simple. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #37

your entire post is complete nonsense CrawlingChaos Nov 2013 #39

"automatically suspicious by any sane criteria." geek tragedy Nov 2013 #40

You are really just having an argument with yourself at this point CrawlingChaos Nov 2013 #41

It seemed suspicious before we knew any more. pnwmom Nov 2013 #44

Do you know something I don't? CrawlingChaos Nov 2013 #52

Unlike you, I don't think his brother and mother are liars. Or deluded. pnwmom Nov 2013 #53

Now who's being unreasonable CrawlingChaos Nov 2013 #55

You're the one who is likely to be mistaken, not the closest family pnwmom Nov 2013 #57

I was quoting the brother, who as a doctor, and the family member pnwmom Nov 2013 #43

codswallop. His brother is a doctor and knew him intimately cali Nov 2013 #25

I agreed it should be considered CrawlingChaos Nov 2013 #33

It is a subjective opinion of a doctor who was a family member pnwmom Nov 2013 #45

What drove him to that point should be the real question? Coyotl Nov 2013 #5

People with high stakes jobs often thrive on the pressure but collapse from the stress. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #7

Drugs. zappaman Nov 2013 #8

Blame drugs? Coyotl Nov 2013 #14

High stress leads a lot of recovering substance abusers to relapse into adiction and abuse. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #16

In this case, yes. zappaman Nov 2013 #24

No, drugs were not a factor CrawlingChaos Nov 2013 #54

The brother says drugs were a factor. If you understood anything about pnwmom Nov 2013 #59

Exactly. n/t zappaman Nov 2013 #63

No, only the people who had bipolar disorder or other risk factors. n/t pnwmom Nov 2013 #29

Preexisting bipolar disease plus drugs is a toxic combination. pnwmom Nov 2013 #12

There is a big distinction between ingredient and answer. Coyotl Nov 2013 #17

What then do you believe drove him towards his episode? LanternWaste Nov 2013 #19

My whole point is I'm not into "believing" what really must have happened. Coyotl Nov 2013 #22

it didn't just happen now JI7 Nov 2013 #18

No, that's not a real question REP Nov 2013 #21

I think you nailed it. pnwmom Nov 2013 #32

People with BPD can also be very successful - there may be a stereotype of BPD = nonfunctional REP Nov 2013 #46

You don't get "driven to" a manic episode. It's a disease. Do you ask Recursion Nov 2013 #58

Doesn't matter. zappaman Nov 2013 #13

Well, gosh. That's good enough for me. Case closed. Iggo Nov 2013 #15

So he was crazy,he imagined the government was spying on him and someone had tampered with his car. jakeXT Nov 2013 #26

Somehow, his family is less concerned with this conspiracy theory than geek tragedy Nov 2013 #30

He had a psychotic break, something that can happen with bipolar disorder. pnwmom Nov 2013 #34

We do not know if he had full blown psychosis and that is what a psychotic break entails cali Nov 2013 #38

I was reacting to the post before. If he was imagining things that weren't true, pnwmom Nov 2013 #42

I think I will go with the official story on this one. Rex Nov 2013 #47

The Kennedy family remained silent about JFK and RFK deaths for 50 years. GoneFishin Nov 2013 #48

He's a physician who's dealt with his brother's manic episodes before pnwmom Nov 2013 #50

My points stand. GoneFishin Nov 2013 #61

And it's A Kennedy with some unusual wackdoodle theories about vaccines REP Nov 2013 #51

Cheap shots at RFK Jr. only cost yourself credibility. I have listened to him enough to know GoneFishin Nov 2013 #56

The only thing whackadoodle about the Skakel case, according to the pnwmom Nov 2013 #62

The RFK Jr interview is laughable; not the judge's opinion REP Nov 2013 #65

I don't know what interview you're talking about, but he wrote a long, pnwmom Nov 2013 #66

Sure. And I suppose Paul Wellstone's plane was not sabotaged, either. (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #49

Right, because the least obtrusive way to kill an old man is to crash his plane Recursion Nov 2013 #60

Please. pnwmom Nov 2013 #67

Looks like a fe people here just are scared to death of the true constant of the universe. Archae Nov 2013 #64

So your point is that powerful righties have no problem killing for profit and power. GoneFishin Nov 2013 #68