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AtheistCrusader

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15. It's not the labels, it's the testing.

Wed Nov 6, 2013, 12:17 PM

Nov 2013

I like the Non-GMO project solution, because they do the testing voluntarily with the FDA and it's already in place.

This would have leveled the playing field for costs on the testing. So yes, costs would go up, but it would make competition fair for the non-gmo stuff you want to eat, rather than their stuff automatically costing more.

I'm bummed this didn't pass, but what can you do without campaign/finance reform with real meat on it.

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Holy shit. Some facts about the loss in Washington to label GMOs [View all] cali Nov 2013 OP

Never mind Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #1

How much will prices go up to pay for all this electioneering? aquart Nov 2013 #2

One thing the consumer can do is to buy only LABELED NGMO foods if possible. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #72

Last night when the No on 522 comittee had a victory gathering, bahrbearian Nov 2013 #3

I saw that, too, pretty telling wasn't it? n/t freeplessinseattle Nov 2013 #13

Why would someone NOT want to know about their food? NightWatcher Nov 2013 #4

food prices would go up. cali Nov 2013 #5

because they had to put a label on it? NightWatcher Nov 2013 #6

I'm just telling you the tactic employed by agribusiness. cali Nov 2013 #7

It's not the labels, it's the testing. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #15

The irony. Food prices go up to fight labeling! Coyotl Nov 2013 #8

I'm in Portland, Oregon and saw a lot of anti-label ads (aimed at the Vancouver, WA market) Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #9

I am profoundly disappointed in my home state. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2013 #19

Well, I think it basically is, but they were inundated with political spending from the bad side. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #23

Not to mention than many democratic voters sat on their ass during this off year election. gopiscrap Nov 2013 #76

The smart side of the state did. Matariki Nov 2013 #37

We have a similar dynamic in Oregon. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #45

It was the scare to farmers on the east side that worked Andy823 Nov 2013 #50

Four counties passed it pscot Nov 2013 #75

I think these were the arguments uppityperson Nov 2013 #53

I would modify your #4... scarletwoman Nov 2013 #69

Macho men don't care what they eat? robbob Nov 2013 #57

Their fear tactics win again BrotherIvan Nov 2013 #10

I've been pointing out that labeling really isn't helpful Scootaloo Nov 2013 #11

Mutant Corporate GMO sucker-puppet propagandists are everywhere on the Net Berlum Nov 2013 #12

Well said chknltl Nov 2013 #36

Surely it couldn't be because the bill was flawed ... Texano78704 Nov 2013 #14

No Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2013 #17

Thank you Citizen's United Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2013 #16

It makes me wonder why agribusiness is fighting so hard to be against labeling GMOs. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #18

Probably because the labeling would imply there may be something dangerous about them... eqfan592 Nov 2013 #20

You're full of baloney Orrex Nov 2013 #21

This made me giggle. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #25

Lol, i stand corrected!!! nt eqfan592 Nov 2013 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author proverbialwisdom Nov 2013 #55

What then, do you believe is the reason agribusiness is fighting so vociferously against simple labe LanternWaste Nov 2013 #61

Because there's no reason for it Orrex Nov 2013 #66

That's been explained many times. HuckleB Nov 2013 #74

Google is your friend moonbeam23 Nov 2013 #34

You do know that study was debunked, right? try using Google yourself. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #39

Exactly. HuckleB Nov 2013 #40

The Right to Know What I’m Eating HuckleB Nov 2013 #44

Check it out. proverbialwisdom Nov 2013 #56

Good idea!!!!! HuckleB Nov 2013 #63

So fucking what? eridani Nov 2013 #80

Because products that contain genetically engineered ingredients quite often are RC Nov 2013 #22

Although it wouldn't surprise me if GMO products weren't good for anyone... Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #24

There have been several studies done, none of which have supported the claim... eqfan592 Nov 2013 #29

So, why do you want to keep it a secret? tsuki Nov 2013 #59

A bit more than several, but... HuckleB Nov 2013 #62

We have been eating GMO for 20 years now. KurtNYC Nov 2013 #27

Lawsuits, eg. "VT HOUSE DECIDES GMO LABELING LAWSUIT WORTH THE RISK" by ANDREW STEIN, MAY. 10, 2013 proverbialwisdom Nov 2013 #65

All else being equal, you're making a bit of a leap that isn't supported by logic Orrex Nov 2013 #32

Well said!!!! nt eqfan592 Nov 2013 #33

Then why is there so much problems in selling GMO to other countries? RC Nov 2013 #35

That's simply not a reasonable objection. Orrex Nov 2013 #38

What is the problem with letting people know what is in their food? RC Nov 2013 #43

That's a red herring Orrex Nov 2013 #46

Much like makers of bottled water should label it as non-carbonated, non-sugared, non-colored water LanternWaste Nov 2013 #64

Funny you say that. Inkfreak Nov 2013 #68

They push any marketing ploy they perceive people will go for... HuckleB Nov 2013 #73

Not reasonable? U4ikLefty Nov 2013 #81

You make a great point: 170 nations haven't banned GMOs Orrex Nov 2013 #85

You can't bring reality to this discussion! HuckleB Nov 2013 #41

The Pointless GMO Label HuckleB Nov 2013 #48

I hate to suggest it, but ... frazzled Nov 2013 #28

Thanks for the info. Trader Joes has too. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2013 #31

It's certainly not my best option cali Nov 2013 #49

Not everybody lives in rural Vermont frazzled Nov 2013 #52

didn't say they did cali Nov 2013 #54

Shilling? frazzled Nov 2013 #58

Alas, it's an all-too-common attack around here. HuckleB Nov 2013 #60

back at you. I didn't appreciate your cali Nov 2013 #67

Yes-on-522 have not conceded, remain "cautiously optimistic," "liberal" King County votes uncounted. proverbialwisdom Nov 2013 #30

Series of sci-fi novels RosettaStoned77 Nov 2013 #42

Twitter: "...Hundreds of thousands of votes to be counted. More results around 6pm Pacific today." proverbialwisdom Nov 2013 #47

as a WA voter heres more MFM008 Nov 2013 #51

I-522 seems to have been an example of a bad implementation of a good idea. ManiacJoe Nov 2013 #70

And... they have an online disinformation campaign I'm sure. They did when CA was trying to pass it. cui bono Nov 2013 #71

"you're all creationists!" MisterP Nov 2013 #78

I don't remember who it was and don't recall them using that phrase, cui bono Nov 2013 #79

It's total BS LittleBlue Nov 2013 #77

The last thing they want is informed people knowing what is in B Calm Nov 2013 #82

Monsanto & Friends Make Biggest Illegal Contribution on Record to Stop GMO Labeling in Washington eridani Nov 2013 #83

Well in fairness the EU has only had this in place since 1997. dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #84